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Print Swap! (10/31-11/31)

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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

It's been three months since the last time we even talked about a print swap. Is there any interest in doing a new one? They are a lot of fun, and it is rewarding knowing your art is being enjoyed by someone else.

[Details]
I set up the swap bot event (based on our last time). You can join anytime between now and 10/31. Because it is the holiday season in America, I'm giving all of November to get your prints out, so the due date for your prints is 11/31.

Join Swap-Bot
Password: photogram

[Rules]
The way it works is that we start up a print swap using Swap Bot. Everyone who is participating joins the swap. The details for doing that will be posted here.

Swap Bot will pick three random people for you to send a print to, and three different random people will have you as a swap partner. All you have to do is make the print and send it to the people you were assigned. You can choose any print that you want, the only rules are:

1) To keep things fair, print sizes are set at about 8x10 (A4 or 8" square are good, too). The idea is that you don't get a 5x7 when you sent of 16x20s. I've received a print as big as 11x11, but almost all have been 8x10.

2) Since this is a black and white group, all prints are black and white. They can be made digitally or traditionally, toned or straight black and white, on any paper you choose. Last time we did this, we had some people suggest separate swaps for digital prints and traditional prints so they can get "equal value". Unless we have a lot more participants, that won't be feasible.

3) Almost any content is good, but don't send something that may cause problems with someone's spouse. We've not had any artistic nudes sent (to my knowledge), but think of something that would be appropriate to display in a home with kids.

4) Don't sign up if you think you may not be able to follow through with it. We've had problems with almost every swap where people signed up to doing the swap and then didn't follow through. That means that while someone sent out three pictures they may have received only two, or only one. It's not fair to the other participants. We understand that stuff can come up that you didn't expect, but please let the swap coordinator know as soon as it happens.

5) Once the swap officially starts, you will have three to four weeks to finish the prints and send them off. You don't need to include mats with the prints, but do try to keep them stiff.

6) Once you receive your prints, you will be able to rate the people who sent them to you. The basic criteria is how good an experience you had.
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Berin Loritsch edited this topic 3 months ago.

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hogepodge is a group moderator hogepodge  Pro User  says:

I'm interested.
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

I'm in, as always. Just got back from LA, actually, and needing to get my darkroom fix in.
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Alan Norsworthy  Pro User  says:

Well seeing as though I really screwed up the last time it's time to try again !
:-)
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

If you know someone who was a bit dissappointed about missing the last one, be sure to spread the word. We want more than just three people involved.
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

Agreed. We've never had more than about a dozen people in a swap. It gets better the more people who are involved.
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davelightseer  Pro User  says:

I may be interested.
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

Hopefully we can round up a few more people so we can go for this.
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AfraidofmyMind  Pro User  says:

I don't understand... the idea is to mail prints between us? if so, we choose which print to send?
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

Yes. Basically, the way it works is that we start up a print swap using Swap Bot. Everyone who is participating joins the swap. The details for doing that will be posted here.

Swap Bot will pick three random people for you to send a print to, and three different random people will have you as a swap partner. All you have to do is make the print and send it to the people you were assigned. You can choose any print that you want, the only rules are:

1) To keep things fair, print sizes are set at about 8x10 (A4 or 8" square are good, too). The idea is that you don't get a 5x7 when you sent of 16x20s. I've received a print as big as 11x11, but almost all have been 8x10.

2) Since this is a black and white group, all prints are black and white. They can be made digitally or traditionally, toned or straight black and white, on any paper you choose. Last time we did this, we had some people suggest separate swaps for digital prints and traditional prints so they can get "equal value". Unless we have a lot more participants, that won't be feasible.

3) Almost any content is good, but don't send something that may cause problems with someone's spouse. We've not had any artistic nudes sent (to my knowledge), but think of something that would be appropriate to display in a home with kids.

4) Don't sign up if you think you may not be able to follow through with it. We've had problems with almost every swap where people signed up to doing the swap and then didn't follow through. That means that while someone sent out three pictures they may have received only two, or only one. It's not fair to the other participants. We understand that stuff can come up that you didn't expect, but please let the swap coordinator know as soon as it happens.

5) Once the swap officially starts, you will have three to four weeks to finish the prints and send them off. You don't need to include mats with the prints, but do try to keep them stiff.

6) Once you receive your prints, you will be able to rate the people who sent them to you. The basic criteria is how good an experience you had.
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biopot  Pro User  says:

yo!

count me in again!
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

Let's see, that looks like 5 interested people so far. :)

That's enough to start up the swap-bot entry. These are a lot of fun, and you won't be disappointed.
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AfraidofmyMind  Pro User  says:

I like the idea... is it ok for the ones that are interested to mail internationally? I live in Argentina. If so, count me in!
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

We've had international swapping in the past. This isn't a problem.

The swap-bot system randomly assigns swap partners, so what you get are names and addresses. You then send them the B&W print of your choosing (must be your own work)
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

I set up the swap bot event (based on our last time). You can join anytime between now and 10/31. Because it is the holiday season in America, I'm giving all of November to get your prints out, so the due date for your prints is 11/31.

Join Swap-Bot
Password: photogram
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

Thanks for setting this one up Berin. I'm signed up.
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

No problem. You've done most of the footwork in the past, I figured it would be a good idea to share the fun.

International Shipping:
Please don't spend more than necessary on shipping. We are not in a rush, so first class mail or media rate mail is perfectly fine. International shipping prices can get high quick. If you think it is going to take a couple weeks, you might consider sending a quick note via FlickrMail or email that the package is coming.

On the first swap, I had a couple swap partners in Europe. I was going to send priority mail until I found out that it was going to cost more than $20 USD. First class mail was just a couple dollars, and they received their prints about a week and a half later.
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alexdghaffari says:

I would like to participate in this swap.
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

Welcome aboard!
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Alan Norsworthy  Pro User  says:

Phew, I got it right this time I'm in :-)
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namke says:

Signed up (hopefully I'll get 3 this time!) Thanks Berin for setting this up :-)
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mik g  Pro User  says:

Signed up too..
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

Sweet.
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~ aidan  Pro User  says:

I'm in on this one :)
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

We've got 11 people officially signed up.

Make sure you either use the same account nickname as Flickr or provide a link back to your Flickr account. It's handy when you want to thank someone for the cool print you just received.
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

11 is not bad. A few more would be nice.

Time is running out.
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daenja  Pro User  says:

I'm signed up! I'm stoked... just missed the last one.
Glad to be apart of this round.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

Today is the last day to sign up. Tomorrow your swap partners will be assigned.

For our swap veterans, sometimes we get repeat swap partners. Let me know if you need to change swap partners as soon as possible.
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daenja  Pro User  says:

i'm a newb... will we be emailed our swap partners or do we log back into the website to see them?
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

You'll get an email from swap bot with your partners.
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getthebubbles  Pro User  says:

woo hoo, i'm in!
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

We're up to 14 people already. And it is nice to see some new faces in the swap.
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louhamilton23  Pro User  says:

Do you know when we will be getting our e-mails? I have not seen one yet.

Thanks!
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

I just clicked the button to automatically assign partners. You should see an email soon, but if you want to know sooner you can log in to swap-bot now to see who you send to.
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

Of course, the bulb in my enlarger just went out and it is special order...

Anyone know where I can get a replacement ELC 250W 24V projection lamp soon? Otherwise I'm just sitting twiddling my thumbs for 7-14 days...
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

Ouch! Can't help you on the bulb. Sorry. Mine are ELH bulbs.
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Alan Norsworthy  Pro User  says:

Got mine :-)
Sorry 'bout your bulb Berin !
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

I found a couple places that keep them in stock. It's essentially the same thing as a projector bulb, so you'd think office supply stores would keep them in stock...
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

Berin: Adorama has them. And free shipping to boot.
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davelightseer  Pro User  says:

I have sent my prints! I am curious about one thing. Are the people I have sent prints to necessarily the same people I will be receiving prints from? I am not clear how the swap randomizes things.
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AfraidofmyMind  Pro User  says:

Not necessarily, but I guess it may happen. You are not in my "send to" list
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

Usually the people sending you prints are a completely different set of people. Be sure to mark swap-bot to track that you sent your prints!
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namke says:

I think that somewhere on the swapbot page you can leave feedback about your received prints - that's how I find out who's going to send me pictures :-)


Gotta do mine soon; still deciding which photo to send out (and now for the first time I have a choice of paper finishes to use! Woo!)
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davelightseer  Pro User  says:

No problem, Pablo. Hope you like the print.
Good point, Berin. Done!
I noticed that before, John, but I didn't think to check who was sending to me. Thanks! ;)
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biopot  Pro User  says:

Is it possible to see your swap partners on the swap-bot webpage? Because I can't see 'em! Also, the 'Dashboard' feature has me down as not being in any current swaps.
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

You can only see the people you are sending to, the only person who can see who is sending to you is the swap administrator. The anonymity is part of what makes this fun and fair.

The dashboard shows what are the current swaps by default. You will find the older swaps under "sent" or "archived".

I don't see you as having signed up for this swap. You are using "biopot" as your username right? Send me a flickr mail or use the "contact" feature on swap-bot to see if we can clear this up.
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biopot  Pro User  says:

Ah! It seems I was missed out of the original pool. No biggie, I'll get in on the next one!
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Alan Norsworthy  Pro User  says:

Not s good time to have a 'puter meltdown ....
Slowly recovering all my stuff from a dead system.
I will get the photo's out but it will be a while :-(

Alan
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

:) The deadline to have them in the mail is the end of the month, so take your time. It's supposed to be fun. My enlarger is waiting for me to get paid so I can get a new bulb for it. I won't even be able to start until it arrives early to mid next week.
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

I just ordered my replacement bulb among other things, so I'll be back in business around Monday or Tuesday. I'm hoping to get my prints out by next weekend if all goes well.
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hogepodge is a group moderator hogepodge  Pro User  says:

For those of you paired up with me, please verify that the address you have sends to Eugene, rather than St. Louis. I updated my info on the site, but I don't know if my partners got the update.
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

Ok, I'm back in business. I'll get my prints done this weekend, if all goes well.
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

So far we have only one person who is marked as having sent their pictures, how are we all doing? We are just about half way through the month, so I just wanted to remind everyone there's only 16 more days left.

If you've sent your pictures already, mark them sent in swap bot. If you've received your pictures, be sure to leave feedback! It's all part of what makes this fun.
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AfraidofmyMind  Pro User  says:

I have 2 prints ready, but did not like how the third one came out. There was some dust on the negs...

As soon as I make that one again I'll send them.
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

I have a set printed, but I'm not sure if they're the ones I'm going to send. I'll get some more darkroom time tomorrow AM and play a bit more before deciding.
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namke says:

I plan to do a batch of printing this evening (or tomorrow). I also have print to be done for a local camera club this week, so I'm definitely going to get mine done soon :-)
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namke says:

I don't know where the time goes... I completely failed to get my prints done this weekend :-(

Glad we've got 'til the end of the month...
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

It is a busy time of year. I just got two of my prints done, and I have a third from a contest I entered. I'll get mine out some time this week.

For our USA folks, this Thursday is Thanksgiving--it will be difficult to hide from the family, or make prints in a tryptophan induced haze. Plan accordingly, and most of all, spend time with your family!

Has anyone received prints yet?
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

Actually, next Thursday is Thanksgiving.

And yes, I've received one. Sent zero. But that'll happen this week.
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hogepodge is a group moderator hogepodge  Pro User  says:

My three are packaged up and heading out in the mail today. Two are international, and will probably take a while to arrive.

update: Mailed. Enjoy the prints!
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mik g  Pro User  says:

Mailed all three today. All going overseas. Royal Mail says 3 days to USA and 5 anywhere else, so should be there before next weekend.
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

Mine should go out tomorrow.
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

Mine are printed, and I should get them out some time this weekend
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louhamilton23  Pro User  says:

Mine will go out by Tuesday.
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kenmartin243  Pro User  says:

I sent my three tonight.
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

Mine are out.
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daenja  Pro User  says:

mine are going out today!

*edit - done! they'll ship out of the post office monday!
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

They are in the mailer, and as soon as I get to the post office, they'll get out. You should see them by the end of the week or early next week if the mail gets through OK. Please let me know if the post damaged them.
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

And please make sure you mark down on Swap-Bot that you've send your items after doing do.
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mik g  Pro User  says:

First package arrived today from the US .
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Alan Norsworthy  Pro User  says:

First one arrived yesterday :-)
In perfect condition.

Mine will be in the mail tonight.

Alan
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AfraidofmyMind  Pro User  says:

I have sent them yesterday. Should take 1-2 weeks to get to the US.
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

I just sent mine last night, so they should arrive within the next week or so.

We're doing pretty good in that over half of everyone who signed up have sent their pictures already. For the remaining folks, their are only 5 more days to get the pictures out on time.
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namke says:

I will be sending mine out on Friday I think (my evenings have been madly packed, and I only managed to get the prints done last night - no excuse, I know but there you go)

They'll be off before the deadline tho' ;-)

Yesterday I received a pair of great prints from Hogepoge - thank you very much!
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louhamilton23  Pro User  says:

I received my first one yesterday and sent mine out today.
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

I just received a package from Mike Costolo tonight, and as usual the work is beautiful.
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Alan Norsworthy  Pro User  says:

They're gone !
Winging their way around the world to arrive, hopefully
not folded, stapled or mutilated, at your door :-)
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Alan Norsworthy  Pro User  says:

My second print arrived today, safe and sound :-)
Thank you Mik G the " Royal Mail" sticker was quite a treat too, especially for an ex-pat !
Great print, thanks again.
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namke says:

My prints went off on Friday (Alan, Dave and Michael)...

Looking forward to receiving some more (although neither of my other swap partners has marked theirs as 'sent' yet)
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

Well everyone *should* have sent their prints out by today. It seems we always have one or two stragglers in every swap. Hopefully it is just that they have not gone and marked off their prints in swap-bot.
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

One of the people contacted me and told me that they would get the prints out this Wednesday (which would be one of the two that has Namke as a recipient). The other person who has responded to me has already sent there pictures as of this morning (which would be the other person who has Namke as a recipient).

It's better late than never. We only have one person left who has not responded to the two prods I sent asking for their plans. That said, we have had a very good response this time around.
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

Good news! I've heard from the last person who hasn't sent their pictures yet and it turns out they were out of town and away from their computer. They assured me the prints would be printed tonight and sent tomorrow.
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namke says:

Looking forward to the results...!

:-)
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davelightseer  Pro User  says:

I have received all of my prints from my partners and have rated them (all 5's) in Swap Bot. Thanks very much Chris H., Mike G., and John T.! So far I have heard back from Mike C. and Alan N. that they have received my prints. I'm still waiting to hear from Pablo.
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

I got one yesterday from my swap partner in Canada (sorry I don't have it here in front of me and don't remember who you are). I was out of town last week so it probably showed up while I was away.
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kenmartin243  Pro User  says:

Received my second print today. Thanks Dan A. I am really pleased with it.
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daenja  Pro User  says:

I've received all of my prints! Thank you Mike Costolo, Alan N. and Pablo "afraidofmymind". They are all fantastic! I'm really glad I was able to be apart of this print swap. I was bummed when I missed the last one. And I can't wait till the next one!
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mike costolo is a group administrator mike costolo  Pro User  says:

I received all three of mine now too.
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Berin Loritsch is a group moderator Berin Loritsch  Pro User  says:

I've now received all three of my pictures. One of which was pretty unique--an emulsion transfer onto a steel shingle. Thank you to all who made the 100% participation possible!

For those who haven't received all your pictures yet, have a little patience. Let us all know when you get them.
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Alan Norsworthy  Pro User  says:

@namke, I got mine, excellent stuff !

Thanks and have a very Merry Christmas :-)
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namke says:

Thanks to all of my partners - I have received prints from all three now

:-)

Happy Christmas to you all ;-)
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mik g  Pro User  says:

I've received all my prints, thank you to my three partners for their great prints.
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hogepodge is a group moderator hogepodge  Pro User  says:

Thanks to all of my swap partners. The third print arrived yesterday. All of the images were lovely. Thanks for sharing them!
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