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ETR-Si won't fire when empty

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jb17kx says:

You'll have to excuse any ignorance here, as I just bought an ETR-Si and it's the first time I've handled a Bronica.

I want to test fire the camera while empty, but the manual indicates that the shutter won't fire whilst the frame counter shows 'S'.

So I try to wind on from S, but it just keeps winding without moving.

Does this simply indicate I need to have a film loaded?
Posted at 6:04PM, 5 July 2008 PST ( permalink )

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Mike Z  Pro User  says:

I think that is the case. You can load it with backing paper and fire away.....
Posted 5 months ago. ( permalink )

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Tony Thayer  Pro User  says:

Set the multiple exposure lever so it is horizontal. Doing so will allow you to dry-fire the body without engaging the film advance gear.
Posted 5 months ago. ( permalink )

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jb17kx says:

Thanks Tony, that worked.

So many things to learn!
So far I'm liking it though. Can't wait to get the films into the darkroom...
Posted 5 months ago. ( permalink )

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Tony Thayer  Pro User  says:

You're welcome.
You have some beautiful photos in your stream. It'll be cool to see what you can do with the bronica.

Mine has convinced me to ditch my digital stuff. (not to incite a flame or anything, I just really love the process.)
Posted 5 months ago. ( permalink )

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jb17kx says:

Thanks. You do too.

Everything seemed alright, so I just loaded it up with some Ilford XP2 which I'll probably just shove in Rodinal anyway.

We shall see.
Posted 5 months ago. ( permalink )

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thescatteredimage  Pro User  says:

Ummm ... but you know that xp2 is C-41, not true black and white? You may get something useable with Rodinal, but it will be inferior to processing in C-41 chems.
Posted 5 months ago. ( permalink )

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jb17kx says:

Yeah, I know that - you might have seen my post at MSM. As it's an expired roll that I got for free though, I'm happy just to accept any results as proof the camera works properly.
Posted 5 months ago. ( permalink )

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thescatteredimage  Pro User  says:

Ahh. Yep, I remember reading it now. Go nuts.
Posted 5 months ago. ( permalink )

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sproutgrrl  Pro User  says:

With the multiple exposure lever set to horizontal and no film...should I be able to get all the shutter speeds to fire? It's only firing at one speed with that test (and battery check light shines red). Is there something else I should be doing? :) this is my first Bronica....Thanks! Oh...I have an SQ
Originally posted 3 months ago. ( permalink )
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Damien Pattrick  Pro User  says:

You should be able to get all shutter speeds unless you have the AE prism attached, this puts the camera in aperture priority mode.

You would then get the same speed for the same aperture and light conditions. You can set the AE mode to off on the prism controls giving you full manual control.

If not it may be a faulty lens.
Posted 3 months ago. ( permalink )

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sproutgrrl  Pro User  says:

Thanks Damien....I have a prism , but not an AE. I think I'm just an idiot. :) Okay....so I took the back off and watched the shutter through the lens and it it's fine. :) I guess what I thought was the shutter was actually the flap of the mirror? :)
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Tony Thayer  Pro User  says:

sproutgrrl: The shutter is inside the lens. The slap sound is actually the mirror locking against the ground glass. If you test fire with the lens removed, you can watch it do it's stuff. It's a good excuse to check the flocking around the mirror, too.
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monkeyking / Peter  Pro User  says:

Remember to put the multiple exposure switch back before you start shooting with film or you'll end up with 15 photos all on frame one!
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sproutgrrl  Pro User  says:

Thanks you guys! Psst....I did forget but I realized when the film advance felt weird. :) So, no harm done!
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