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What is Graffiti?

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gutenblerg says:

Has the colllective defined the subject 'graffiti'... it is unauthorised and illegal here in NZ, so what is it where you come from?
Some projects are officially sanctioned, but someone sprayed my car the other day and i was annoyed.
Posted at 5:23PM, 22 March 2008 PDT ( permalink )

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F. Swift  Pro User  says:

Graffiti is Life
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-tiptoe-  Pro User  says:

your mother!
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otherthings is a group administrator otherthings  Pro User  says:

Sorry to hear about your car! People don't tag cars much here in San Francisco... unless of course the car has no tires, no engine, and homeless people living inside of it.
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3_MS says:

it is everything you love and every thing you hate
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Atoom [deleted] says:

it's free art... with history movement!

www.fatcap.com/
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Mark aka Maxrock says:

It's illegal here in the UK too, in most places. Some just use it as an excuse to vandalise with no artistic effort or skill at all. I don't call that graffiti.

Tell me if I'm wrong here. Did graffiti evolve from gangs tagging their territory. The tags becoming more and more complex in an attempt to out-do other gangs?
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WILL8HAWES says:

Some logic in that mark aka maxrock!
Graffiti has been about fore thousands of years,

its is art!!!!
It is a way of life
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DoUBleMoVEmeNt  Pro User  says:

Graffiti is not illegal in the UK. The crime you will be charged with if you paint/etch/daub or in any other way write here without permission of a property owner (and are caught) is Criminal Damage. Graffiti is not a crime in itself here in Britain its just conceptualised as one by people for their own ends.

Try reading Crimes of Style - Ferrell, Getting Up - Castleman, Taking the Train - Austin. They'll give you a pretty good insight.
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A V R  Pro User  says:

Kilroy was here !
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junkyprojects  Pro User  says:

Graffiti comes from the italian word graphito which means to scratch. The earliest graff was scratched into surfaces, like that which was found throughout the roman town of Pompeii when it was excavated.
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otherthings is a group administrator otherthings  Pro User  says:

@Mark aka Maxrock:

Tell me if I'm wrong here. Did graffiti evolve from gangs tagging their territory. The tags becoming more and more complex in an attempt to out-do other gangs?

Mostly you're wrong, but it depends on which city you're talking about, and which time period. If you're talking about ancient Pompeii, or Philadelphia or New York in the 1970's, then no-- gangs did not play any kind of major role in the development of graffiti there.

But certain contemporary styles of graffiti did evolve from what were originally gang tags-- in Los Angeles, there's a "cholo" style (exemplified by the work of Chaz Bojorquez) that came out of Latino gang writing, which was itself derived from blackletter calligraphy (like the masthead of the New York Times).
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xhushhh says:

i think it's a way to express yourself where other people can admire it.
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Chica.Independiente says:

Graffiti, sometimes illegal, but ultimately beautiful.
:]

I love it. It's life.

And by the way, the people that tagged your car weren't graffiti artists. Theyre called "toys"

Which are basically wannabe graff artists

Because the basic rules of graff are that you never never NEVER tag/spray a car, home, church, or gravespot. Ever... EVER

Or else everything you do from then on will be disrepected by other artists. Well, where I come from, at least.

Theyre toys because theyre little punks who dont have an ounce of dignity in their bodies.

So yeah. :D
Sorry for the long answer.

:P

But graff is amazing :D
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bemie says:

Graffity is a pure expression graffity is the voice of those who do not have voice
Peace and respect
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junkyprojects  Pro User  says:

Yep. those are toys. Cap on sight. Anything they do from now on, put a line straight through it. Gotta let em know son.
(this is probably the only way you can get back at these little shit kickers,)CAP ON SIGHT
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videobroker2 says:

It would be nice if the city provided a blank wall for people to grafitti on so that they don't have to do it on other people's properties?
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Twisted MInds says:

Graffiti is art, a way of life, and a way to express urself
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titimo says:

@ videobroker

they have in my town
i've even seen tourist tours go down there lol
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junkyprojects  Pro User  says:

Cities do provide lots of blank walls. theyre everywhere. The graffiti artist sees every blank wall as a canvass. We dont need your permission for our expression.
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ATX512  Pro User  says:

I'm totally down with Chica. Graffiti artists that actually respect themselves as ARTISTS are the ones that believe in respecting property such as homes, vehicles, day cares, parks etc. Vandals that tag such places do not recieve my respect as artists (nor should they be recognized as one) and that is my purpose for being involved in the graffiti community;to meet other ARTISTS. What 5 year old kid cares about your crappy throw up? They don't and toys, through being ostrisized, will learn where the lines are drawn.
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3_MS says:

1. pl. of graffito.
2. (used with a plural verb) markings, as initials, slogans, or drawings, written, spray-painted, or sketched on a sidewalk, wall of a building or public restroom, or the like: These graffiti are evidence of the neighborhood's decline.
3. (used with a singular verb) such markings as a whole or as constituting a particular group: Not much graffiti appears around here these days.
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3_MS says:

Graffiti and Art create a ven diagram

People with shitty handstylyles that tag nursery schools do graffiti but is that art NO

a painting on a canvas is not graffiti

but they do coincide most of the time
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3_MS says:

Also when something is illegal and unrestricted with no real form of mass organization there will not be and can't (and in my opinion shouldn't be) any definition.
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tera_bizzle says:

Its a habit i have i never leave the crib without a camera or marker.But yeah theres rules and .
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F. Swift  Pro User  says:

He Says:
The motivations and objectives that drive street artists are as varied as the artists themselves. There is a strong current of activism and subversion in urban art. Street art can be a powerful platform for reaching the public, and frequent themes include adbusting, subvertising and other culture jamming, the abolishment of private property and reclaiming the streets. Other street artists simply see urban space as an untapped format for personal artwork, while others may appreciate the challenges and risks that are associated with installing illicit artwork in public places. However the universal theme in most, if not all street art, is that adapting visual artwork into a format which utilizes public space, allows artists who may otherwise feel disenfranchised, to reach a much broader audience than traditional artwork and galleries normally allow.

Graffiti is the name for images or lettering scratched, scrawled, painted or marked in any manner on property. Graffiti is often regarded by others as unsightly damage or unwanted vandalism.

Examples of graffiti styles
Ancient graffiti carved by pilgrims at Church of the Holy Sepulcher, Old City of Jerusalem Graffiti has existed since ancient times, with examples going back to Ancient Greece and the Roman Empire. Graffiti can be anything from simple scratch marks to elaborate wall paintings. In modern times, spray paint and markers have become the most commonly used materials. In most countries, defacing property with graffiti without the property owner's consent is considered vandalism, which is punishable by law. Sometimes graffiti is employed to communicate social and political messages. To some, it is an art form worthy of display in galleries and exhibitions. However, the public generally frowns upon "tags" that deface bus stops, trains, buildings, playgrounds and other public property....

Read The Rest At xMrdutch730x
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GraffNet says:

Turning a city into a canvas.
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See El Photo  Pro User  says:

good Graffiti is good.
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TIGERIZE says:

unless its bad
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ExcuseMySarcasm  Pro User  says:

Graffiti is?

Join me on a debate on this photo and help me explain and defend graffiti.
Posted 3 months ago. ( permalink )

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F. Swift  Pro User  says:

good graf is good, Unless-It's Bad?

Is that some Michel Jackson shit?
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otherthings is a group administrator otherthings  Pro User  says:

Props to you, Excuse, for keeping up the level of discourse in that debate!
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ExcuseMySarcasm  Pro User  says:

Heh, I tried, but when he called me a fool I sorta got mean. Fuck it, I'm tenacious, petty and extremely literate.
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tors is dead.. says:

It is whatever you want it to be.
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F. Swift  Pro User  says:

"...Fuck it, I'm tenacious, petty and extremely literate."

The definition of Graff
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gutenblerg says:

Many thanks for those edifying remarks...
I guess that narrows it down to a planet or two ( :
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vandallus villianus says:

look it up in the dictionary! but to me its putting letters on a surface in public view where ever and whenever the fuck i want!! preferably with spraypaint!
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TIGERIZE says:

tenacious, petty and extremely literate."
this is bad...yeah like michael jackson perv
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blakkbyrd says:

I think the definition warrants a small text.

I also think the subject needs an academic approach. For this reason, the blakkbyrd blog contains a scrapbook of graffiti research from an academic rather than a fan POV.

What graffiti definititely is NOT is something that was invented in New York ,as all the marketing claims.
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omatix  Pro User  says:

AVR1 said it best in 3 words...

kilroy was here.

as far as I know, the modern day action of writing one's name on a public surface, which was pegged the term graffiti, came about due to a young man in WWII who would leave the mark, "kilroy was here" everywhere he and his platoon went. the markings became famous from newsreels that would be shown during movie screenings, similar to the way previews are shown today.

although, the medium of "tagging" one's name on the wall actually originated in Philadelphia, graffiti as an "art form" did originate in NYC (i know, i was there) no one, nowhere in the world, was doing the type of graffiti that was being done in NYC at the time. we're talking about the early 70's here. bubble letters, mixed colors, color fillings with outlines, adding doodads to their names, throw-ups, burners, hyper-extending names (*ski, *ism, *love, etc) this all originated in NYC. and as far as i know, no one used trains as a medium before NYC did it. this is what i remember from my childhood, growing up in the late 70's & early 80's in Washington Heights, NYC

...and this is my 2 cents.

...oh, and as much as i would like my old neighborhood to take credit for it, TAKI 183 was NOT the first graf writer in NYC.

here is wikipedia's info:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti#Modern_graffiti
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♥Kiniku Uzumaki♥  Pro User  says:

graffiti is a form of art writing or other things on a wall tht are not supposed to be ther so its kinda illegal oh well
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al-10 says:

graffiti is straight fun vandalism.
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graff~master says:

go suck your mom!
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F. Swift  Pro User  says:

You Are Graffiti. and So Am I.
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vandallus villianus says:

if your talking about the shit that hangs in galleries these days! fuck no its not art !!! graff is to good to be art! art fags get butt hurt cause its the only thing not taught in school and no matter what kind of talent they have it will be years before they will be able to do it with spray paint!! and im talking on a canvas in the saftey of their studio. now bombing hah.... they dont got the heart! so hate on it , debate online about it, blog it....... blah blah blah! just know most of you will never know the feeling when you cant sleep, waiting for the sun to come up so u can flix the spot you caught a few hours earlier! instead your sitting in morning rush hour traffic wishing god would be so merciful to strike you down with lighting to end your dead end life!just as you look up to plead ...you notice the colors and ill style that burn your eyeballs and suddenly you forget why you looked up instead you think how the fuck did they do that!! WOW...... then you crash and die in a 10 car pileup! your welcome.... graffiti is THE GRIM REAPER
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junkyprojects  Pro User  says:

he he he, yeah.
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F. Swift  Pro User  says:

..... blah blah blah!
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I KILL YOU says:

dudes theres like really big paragraphs in this topic.........DO YOU SEE THEM?
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designroyalty.com says:

I'm not a graff writer. My mom wouldn't let me when I was a kid. But from the outside looking in- it seems to me that Graffiti is territorial.

The subculture has a land grab objective. It's the pure numoristy of it that makes it tempting. The energy and talent is obvious. The only question I have for all the real artist's is why just give it away? You can't take that shit with you.

Change The Game. Don't let the Game Change You.
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darko666  Pro User  says:

The difference between graffiti and art is contextual, just like art itself. You do "art" on my car and it's vandalism and I'm inclined to break your ass. You do art under a bridge, on a wall of some ass building, and you actually have a lick of skill, then goddamn thank you for making my day. You use a wall to practice on, a wall that was doing just fine without your sixteen year old bullshit notion of cool on it, then I'd like you to go do yer practicin' somewhere else until you've got it down pat.
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Proph Bundy says:

Tagging cars is frowned upon... unless it's a Police car... then you get triple points. lol oh, or a box truck in the city, and thats just asking for a throw up
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gluekodextrin says:

graffiti is an art form in which the artist is not limited to a canvas, its also a way to get a crazy adrenaline rush
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