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2nd real try at HDR - NIGHT shot - give critique

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bsdubois00  Pro User  says:

Hey guys, this is my 2nd real try at doing this - I took some night shots at the Oklahoma City National Memorial. What do you think?

Brandon

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cosmosvortex_2006 says:

These look sweet!
Might try Noise Ninja on them.
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NeedMoreCoffeeMan  Pro User  says:

Bit overdone in my eyes.
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Mixmaster  Pro User  says:

As a general rule, night photos are not the best use for HDR (or vice versa). The highlights are still blown and the darkest parts are still black and undetailed, so what's the point.

A well exposed long shutter speed photo would probably look much better.

Yours lack contrast, has strange colors and is very noisy.
Smells Photomatix.
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sachman75  Pro User  says:

Halos are quite apparent, I agree a well executed single long exposure would often yield better results
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gryphon1911 says:

Disclaimer: I do not like over processed HDR. The more realistic the better.

I feel it is over processed. it looks more like an artistic rendition than an photograph. If that is what you were looking for then, forget what I just said.
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Emteehed  Pro User  says:

@Mixmaster. How can you say that about HDR and nite photos when the tutorial you kept providing has a NITE shot at the top of it. One that YOU provided and took yourself??

@bsdubois00. In my opinion, compostionally #2 seems to be the best of the lot. As far as the HDR, maybe you could lower your white point some. Try to keep the 'shapes' of the lamps in view. Something like this: here you can still see the protective grate in front of the bulb.

Welcome to Mammoth Lakes Round 2
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See1,Do1,Teach1 says:

Criticism seems little harsh, but I guess you asked for it.

What stands out most to me (in a not so good way) is the noise. Particularly in the 2nd & 4th.

The reflections in 1, 2 & 4 are great.

#3 really just doesn't work for me because it's not sharp, and it's too saturated. I think you could dial back on it and try an unsharp mask effect and see if you like the results better.
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bsdubois00  Pro User  says:

Yea i was very surprised about the noise - i shot on the lowest iso and raw for some reason the XSI had alot of noise - any ideas? quite windy here in Oklahoma, so it wasnt the easiest to get 3 good shots with the wind whipping butt, so thats what I had to work with, give me time i will get it, I appreciate all the comments.

brandon
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rustyjaw  Pro User  says:

I diagree with Mixmaster about night-shots and HDR. By "highlights" I assume he is talking about lights and lamps, which are light sources. Yes, they will be blown out even in a properly tonemapped HDR, but it's common for such light sources to be blown out to the naked eye as well.

What HDR can do is minimize the scope of the blown out area, making it much more similar to how the eye sees it, and at the same time bring out detail in dark, shadowed areas.

I would go so far as to suggest that night shots where artificial lights are present are one of the ideal situations to use HDR.
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Alt_Gr  Pro User  says:

hi
i also shot with the XSI (450d called here) , and i have the same problems with noise doing hdr pics.

also see here
www.flickr.com/groups/photomatix/discuss/72157605019589934/

try to de-noise pics BEFORE processing, because noise will be increased doing hdr.
i have the suggestion shooting in jpeg produces less noise, but i dont really know :-(
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fotosniper  Pro User  says:

Over processed. They need to be more subtle
Pont Neuf
very simple
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Darren Oerly  Pro User  says:

I disagree with Mixmaster and sachman. A well done HDR night shot can be a lot better than a well executed long exposure. I only do HDR at night because that is when I think it has the best benefit. I can generally get a good range during the day but night shots, especially cityscapes are harder to get quality darks and lights while maintaining the midtones. Hyatt Pool HDR
Renee and Henry Segerstrom Concert Hall
Both of those are 3-6 exposure HDR's but the tonemapping is more on the realistic spectrum not found in most HDR shots. While not perfect shots by any means, they have a range that I most likely couldn't have gotten with my current skill level on a single long exposure.

@bsdubois: I would keep trying the night shots...the more practice at it, the better you will get. You might try playing with the settings in which ever HDR program you are using. I suspect the noise is a result of too much light smoothing and not enough strength. Play with all of the settings on each HDR image you create until you find what works best for each individual picture...I rarely find that the same settings work for multiple pictures, even those taken during the same set.
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robbie-rob  Pro User  says:

I think, for your 2nd try, you did very well.
To echo what has been said they are a little noisy. Also, as I have recently learnt myself, if you go too hard on the sliders a halo appears around some parts of the image (The big tree in your 2nd image .e.g.). That is something of a warning that you are over doing it.
I am new to HDR myself and personally I am finding I'm have better results from tone-mapping a single RAW file (Much less noise .e.g.).

I am of the group that thinks HDR is GREAT for night photography. Just look at some of the images on this site and I think you may agree!
Well done, keep at it.

Rob
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Alt_Gr  Pro User  says:

i disagree with you robbie
tonemapping from a single raw-file normaly produces more noisem because the noise is always at the same position.
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Oscar Papaorhum says:

I like the first Darren Oerly one but I'm not a fan of night HDR. Maybe because I've never succeded in doing one well
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KRMicros  Pro User  says:

MixMaster you said it smells of Photomatix. What else shoudl I be using? I have seen some really good HDRs. While they look a little overdone I cant seem to get the same effect with photomatix.
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[F41NT] says:

you can use the merge to hdr feature in photoshop. its not as easy to understand as photomatix, but the results are very nice. also, way to be a d-bag Mixmaster. if someone wanted you to overly criticize there work, and just be torn apart, i don't think they would post up there photos here. this is a place for people to post up there work and recieve constructive criticism. way to go a-hole
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Joseph Bergdoll says:

Turn up light smoothing in photomatix
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