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I would say its more like radio, cause the music is there. tomorrow night one of the hottest underground R&B singer, Ledisi, is up for two Grammy's "New Artist" and R&B ablum. It still shocks me that her indie cd sold on Ebay for $180. I see a lot of talented artist like her that don't get the airplay, the tv show performances. Rahsaan Patterson current cd is hot. Van Hunt, Franklin Bridge, OMG Soulive's music will put you azz in a neck brace. It's so funky. But like the said on CNN radio won't play it. Radio keeps feeding this generation fast food (loops and edited vocals) the listeners, eventually, will throw up from all that crap.
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you're right. i forgot that it's the radio. Go Listen To That Architect Music!
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Hip hop will go where the people go. yeah, mainstream stuff sucks nuts but we have a huge variety on underground music that people just need to find. Hip Hop will never die as long as there are real MC'S still out there.
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Co-sign.
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or just go back in time and pick up some classics you may have missed. thats what i do. today I just picked up Ruff Draft by J Dilla. He's amazing. I also missed Midnight Marauders by ATCQ so I picked that up a couple of months ago. Ive been trying to find anything to prevent myself from listening to Foreign Exchange all day every day.
but as far as just todays music, lie mo'funk said, the music is there, its just the radio spewing the trash. we just have to dig deeper than we may have had to before to get to the good music.
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Prepare for the beginning of the end. All the nicest rappers ar 38 and over. All these young boys have ZERO lyricism. Name someone under 30 who is nice with it. 85% of my itunes is shit between 93-96. the rest is current albums from those artist.
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93-96 is shit? whoa whoa whoa I think you have to reword that... No one will argue these kids on MTV and all that crap on TV have 0 lyricism, but you can't make the arguement that ALL these new guys have 0 lyricism.
1 group that I love and will never get sick of is Mars Ill from Atlanta Georgia (part of a bigger group called Deep Space 5). ManChild and Dust keep it nice and I give you my word on that.
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Yeah I'll be honest, that was a lil bold. I forgot bout Cassidy, Papoose, Talib, Mos Def
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funny thing is Im listening to less hip hop these days I wonder why..hmmmmm
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hahah you guys just gotta search for it; Hip Hop ain't dead. As long as our Bboys keep Breakin', our painters keep paintin', and our MC's keep Spittin', Hip Hop will always be there. Hip Hop just hit a Wall w/ the mainstream because we have fake bitches over here trying to sell an image; That ain't Hip Hop... Like Mos Def said, "Hip Hop will go where the people go."
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UyPhotography edited this topic 6 months ago.
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Seriously mainstream is horrible. Back in the day, well 90-97ish, even commercial MCs were dope. Like Naughty By Nature, Cypress Hill, etc etc. Now, Rap (I refuse to call it Hip Hop) is saturated with kids that can't rhyme, all flash no substance. I blame it on Puff Daddy aka p-diddy. (sigh) Rant over... Hip Hop ain't dead, but it sure is in retirement.
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hahahahah ChunDeezie put it right. please forgive me for calling that crap on MTV Hip Hop; It ain't even right to call it Rap... its just pure crap (no pun intended). Its sad when we have Japanese producers creating break beats while in the States, we have.... Crunk... damn...
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I don't mind mainstream too much. I like concious artists here and there like Black Star, Common, Jungle Brothers, etc. but lets not act like they haven't put out radio hits.
and J DILLA IS A MAINSTREAM PRODUCER!!!!!!
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& Soulja Boy, Shorty Lo etc are ALL hip hop. you may not like it but it is still hip hop.
Listen to Busy Bee or Sugar Hill Gang or Melle Mel and tell me that their rhyme scheme is any better than what you'd hear on the radio these days.
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but you can't compare soulja boy to the sugar hill gang... yeah look at rapper's delight and Wonder Mike with his rhyme scheme:
"i said a hip hop the hippie the hippie
to the hip hip hop, a you dont stop
the rock it to the bang bang boogie say up jumped the boogie
to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat "
of the times, it was all about the party, bringing the community together, there was so much soul to the music. yet if you look at soulja boy's song Crank that Soulja boy:
"Soulja Boy Off In This Hoe
Watch me Lean And Watch Me Rock?
Super Man Dat Hoe
Then Watch me Crank Dat Robocop?
Super Fresh, Now Watch Me Jock"
wtf is that man... this is suppose to be dance music? There is no soul to this... You can't compare this to Sugar Hill Gang; to a classic.
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so its not about the party in these days? whether you like it or not or think theres no soul to it or not, it is a part of hip hop. the party jam is NOT a new phenomenon to Hip Hop it has always been an intregal part of it.
Mos Def has Ms. Fat Booty.
A Tribe Called Quest has Hot Sex On A Platter.
De La Soul has Baby Phat.
so what? are those songs not hip hop because they don't address inner city gang violence or narcotics? It doesn't always have to be a serious subject.
NWA is gangsta rap. Not Hip Hop?
Ice T. Not Hip Hop?
Too Short. Not Hip Hop?
You can't just label every song you like as good hip hop and every song you hear on the radio as bad hip hop or not hip hop at all.
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Nobody ever said that Hip Hop is all about serious subjects, I rather enjoy the fun hip hop ish like Pharcyde, Tribe, De La. Its the way the mainstream markets these so called hip hop artists as one hit wonders and all about the mega hit. Back in the day, artists had time to grow and put out quality "music" shit with beats and rhymes. Not just one or the other. Also its not about who's mainstream or not, the majority of mainstream acts don't make music for the love of it, they just makin shit folks want to hear to make money (at least I hope so cause Soldja boy ain't doin it for me). In the end though, peeps will just buy and dl stuff they dig,without knowin' the real hip hop and where it came from. Like wine, its all your own personal palate.
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you think underground artists aren't trying to get paid?
Kweli said himself "My kids can't eat my love of hip hop"
and if they didn't enjoy it they wouldn't have started it in the first place would they. Its not exactly easy to get into the business and pretty much everybody in the game has had to persevere to break into it.
and what you claim is "real" & "fake" hip hop is nothing more than your personal opinion as well.
you have the WRONG attitude.
"Oh i don't like that artist, he's not hip hop."
There are pros and cons of EVERYTHING. Good hip hop and bad hip hop. regardless, it is stilL HIP HOP.
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#1) we haven't set a definition of what "mainstream" is in this joint and I think that may be starting up confusion.
#2) I believe Rap music is poetry; self expression. As Rakim would do, all real MC would want to just flow for ever. And of course these MC's want to get paid; its their profession. But what is being marketed as "hip hop" to this generation of up coming kids is totally the wrong idea. When was hip hop ever about big booty bitches? Where the Bboys and Bgirls at? To even give artist like soulja boy and lil' john the title of being so called "hip hop" is a spit in the face to the culture. These tools are the once that are representing the culture to the majority masses?
and to clarify; I'm not saying you have to be underground to be an MC; its just by coincidence that the underground artist still have the raw lyric that isn't getting the attention of the greater masses.
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UyPhotography edited this topic 6 months ago.
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lol what are you talking about?
What about Nas. Jay-Z. Lupe Fiasco. Kanye West?
and hip hop has objectified women since WAY back!!
BIG DADDY KANE!
ICE T!
EAZY E!
BUSY BEE!
UTFO!!
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I think one of the problems today is that there isn't much of a balance in mainstream hip hop/rap. Mainstream I like to define as anything played on the radio more than 20 times a day. Back in the day, artists with a different message were on radio, MTV, BET, etc etc. Now its all the same shit on the radio, no diversity of sounds or styles. And yes music is always going to be about personal preference, what you think is dope, the next man will say is wack.
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do like dead prez said
turn off the radio/turn off that bullshit
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I love hip-hop but i'm diggin' my new musical growth. 10 years ago i wouldn't have listened to Dave Matthews, John Mayer, some heavy metal (Killswitch Engaged). I would have discovered any of them without a hip hop hiatus.
Peace
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