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Dyeing in Copper pots?
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Any one used "natural" dyes with wool in copper or iron pots? Does it affect weather or not you use a mordant? HELP!
Please only respond if you have experience dyeing in copper pots.
Originally posted at 10:14AM, 17 May 2008 PST
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Penny Nickels edited this topic 6 months ago.
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Bad idea! The dyes can react to metal and alter the colors, if you use iron or steel the colors come out "sad", i.e greyish and uneven. Even using a steel spoon can affect the colors. I haven't tried in a copper pot, but I imagine it would be similar. Better to use glass, ceramic, or enameled pots if you can so the material dyes true. You need a mordant whatever you decide, or there's a good chance the dye will wash out or fade pretty quickly. Even plain salt or cream of tartar can work wonders.
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simonJester edited this topic 6 months ago.
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I know that's true for Jaquard, or kool aid or what ever, but people have been using metal pots forever with "natural" dyes. See below
www.earthguild.com/products/riff/rmordant.htm
cf.synergylearning.org/displayarticle.cfm?selectedarticle...
www.dyeman.com/natural%20Dye%20recipe.htm
www.craftzine-digital.com/craft/vol04/?pg=152&search=...
Women's Work by Elizabeth Barber
I need practical advice from someone who dyes this way.
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Penny Nickels edited this topic 6 months ago.
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I think whether or not you need a mordant depends on what kind of 'natural dye' you are using. I use natural plants and other natural findings in the woods to dye wool and cotton.Some of them can give quite solid color, and the color stays even you don't use a mordant, but others cannot. Also, what kind of mordant you choose will affect the color as well. Adding iron will sometimes give different color from using alum or copper.
I dont use iron or copper pot. I used a very old steamer pot given by my mother-in-law and i think that is an alum pot.
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I've read that if you use an aluminum pot and heat the fiber in a water bath in that pot for a few hours, you don't need to use alum as a mordant. Ever tried that?
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oh, really? I have never tried that. But if that works, I can save some aluminum. :) I also use rain water. When it is summer, I just leave the pot in the garden to gather rain, then use that water to dye. And I also keep a jar of iron nails outside to rust in the rain water. When I need iron, I just pour the rusty iron water in.
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What is your ratio of rusty nail juice to the water bath? Approximately?
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half of a jam jar rusty water in approximately 2 liter liquid in dying pot. u know what, you may find Simmy's blog very interesting, and helpful. She is a lady in Britain, a natural dyeing gal lady, in all the possible good ways :)
simmy.typepad.com/echoesofadream/
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