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So, please give me a try :-)
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hey guys! please comment on the photo by opening it and using its reply box for your comment... like the pre-judging thread, only this time, it's our photo. use the reply code above, as usual. : )
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Thanks Gon and Noe. I did copy my comment and posted it
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@Everybody: Thanks a lot for your wonderful feedback here. It is extremely helpful for me.
Inbetween I copied all of your comments into the discussion of the photo.
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helmet13 (a group admin) edited this topic 5 months ago.
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Great Idea for a thread! Looking forward to stopping by often.
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move over, helmuth : )! now, let's do mine. what do you think?
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Here is another reply to the Helmuth girl... The model was from Germany, Hamburg and the photo was taken with my old analogic OM4 some 20 years ago. What you see here is a digital renewed version... eh.eh..eh.. Title: "Odalisque"
@Noe: be sure, i'll comment your one later... in any case I return to the child I was very very often...!! :-)
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Klimt and Shiele set to photography!
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Shall we get back to Noe's photo now?
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Well put Ineke. I'm so easily distracted.
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justonemore (JOM) edited this topic 4 months ago.
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@gon: yup! after the leg spread i felt we need to tame everything down a bit! : ) hehe...
@osvaldo: she's cute! who's she? what's odalisque? : )
@ineke / osvaldo / jom: i appreciate your comments! the photo was taken during the rush hour. and it was that moment thing when i turned my head around that i've spotted the guy in the pic. i was in the middle of all the pedestrians and thought that was a make or break. just had like 5 seconds to take the shots : ) thanks again!
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Odalisque= "An odalisque (Turkish: Odalık) was a virgin female slave in an Ottoman seraglio. She was an assistant or apprentice to the concubines and wives, and she might rise in status to become one of them. Most odalisques were part of the harem, that is, the household, of the sultan."
This is the famous Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres "Grand Odalisque". (Louvre, Paris)
Do you really wonna know who is the model of my photo? She's a friend of mine, we were playing ... but, be sure, she is NOT an odalisque. At that time she was the manager of an independent Theater Dance Group... in Zurich
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@osvaldo: learning a lot of things from you! : ) i also like this small shot above. early 70's, i presume? i love era shots! i don't think i've seen this one from your ps before.
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The small one is a polaroid IMAGE... beginning of 80's. I was used to take some polaroid to test the lights before the "Odalisque" session... the model is the same.
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that's the effect i wanted to achieve in the " return to the child you once were"! i guess, you've noticed the yellow effect tone there.
this polaroid shot brings back memories of my childhood. i feel like that's my mom jumping there... hehe...
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sorry, gon. i'll stop here. i'll bring this conversation to the jurors' cafe... hehe...
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I'm posting this picture because I'm interested in your opinion...
It is a trivial shot that I'm using to make you a question...
The shot is blurred... I was not able to tell fishes to stay steady! I've used 1/15 sec exposure time and this was in my opinion the best compromise between aperture exposure time and ISO... I usually work with a compact camera and I cannot push ISO settings due to high ISO noise...
So there's the question:
When you "judge" a picture you are taking into account all variables and setup or just evaluate the final result?
Thanx mates!
Stefano
BTW I think that after years I'm oing to buy a DSLR...
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Stefano, personally I look at the final output in wich the SENSE, the meaning and the emotional impact are the main factors. Technical abilities in themselves have no meaning if the photo doesn't stir up some emotion, some visual pleasure, some personal memory...
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Osvaldo I completely agree... and usually I think that Camera limitation are essential part of the picture (which is not the reality but a subjective reality's representation!!) btw I experenced many situations in which I would have liked to ask more and more from my compact camera!!!
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Stefano the CanonG7 is a very good compact tool, as you can see I use it very often..but it not suitable for any kind of situations. As I told you technique and tools come after eye/mind sensibility, but both are usefull in any case...
..but I've always in mind these cpl of quotations: - ""Photography has not changed since its origin except in its technical aspects, which for me are not important." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
""The good photograph is not the object, the consequences of the photograph are the objects... "- Dorothea Lange
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Gina, it's always better if u leave ur comments in the image's comment boxes instead of here in the tread ;)
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@gina: thanks for the comment. i see what you mean.
@all: gon wants this thread clear of all comments. can we do that?
@gon: i think the thread is going well this way. i'm having a fun time reading comments here instead of opening photos and commenting. what do you think of keeping it this way? : ) but your choice of course.
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sure, boss, we can change the main line of the thread, or we can talk in the cafe. it was not the intention of the thread, but u can change it all, once u like that way, of course :)
now i'm bit rushy, but later i'll delete the main text and right down just: "just for jurors to post images and comment them the way u want".
i think the main thing here is that we are always complaining that members never read the rules or what we write down. but we can't complain if we do exactly the same or worst. so, why do we bother writing and creating guidelines if people doesn't read them? of course this is supposed to be relaxed. but even in a relaxed chilling out mood, we should respect the main guidelines. or not at all?
we can open and re-open threads, no problem at all, it's not the point.
really need to go now. talk later.
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i don't find your remark funny at all! been reminding everyone here like you do and no one seems to be paying attention. this is your thread and think that you should keep it the way you want it.
as i've said, that's your choice. mine is just a suggestion.
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noe_carrillo (a group admin) edited this topic 4 months ago.
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Let's post comments in both places, it's not hard to write one here and then copy and paste it underneath the photo is it? Isn't that most relaaaaaxed? :-)
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I'm guilty!! That's true I didn't respect the rules fo thread...Maybe it's better to talk about photography, art, technique and so on at the café. We can also post there some photo... Let's post here our photos to have comments as a "pre-stage" for Jurors. That was a nice idea...
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When you "judge" a picture you are taking into account all variables and setup or just evaluate the final result?
My answer is: mostly the final result. Because if that is not right, there's little for us to judge on is there? I haven't been around when the set up was done so i can't judge that.
Shooting fish in an aquarium is a hard thing, even with a DSLR. This photo I think if you choose to put one fish as the center focus instead of a bunch of them, might work better even if blurry. And no distracting stuff like plants in the background...
Reminds me I did take one or two raher nice shots in an aquarium once, but most were unusable.
I shall try to dig them up :-) I think i posted one in my stream but the others which were best I didn't (makes sense huh?) but this fish was by far the cutest: (SEE JURORS CAFE!)
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@Osvaldo: Oh but it's hard when you start to associate things to say: okay, I want to show you something, so i will post it in the Jurors Cafe, isn't it?
I don't mind...but if people object I will take the above photos out of here (and post them in the cafe)
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Okap peeps: don't argue. Gon: it's your idea and you can do it the way you want. But maybe it's not such a big deal when people get a little distracted once in a while? You can always delete the not relevant stuff and post them in the cafe instead?
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C'mon peeps, the rules call for comments to be left in the comment stream for the photo not in this thread. They're more easily accessed in the future under the photo than in one of these threads. Also, others looking at the photo will have access to the dialogue and may learn a thing or two as well.
@Gina: Many thanks for you comment on my photo and for you offer to try out some other things. I'm putting a copy of the original photo in the photo stream so you can play with it if you like. See you there & thx again for the feedback!
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I am very sorry for not reading the rules more thoroughly. I read them the first time, but then I didn't re-read them when I was ready to make a comment. I will delete my comments and put them where they belong (with the image they were intended for).
I really like the idea of this thread. I haven't ever posted a photo to the main group pool because I do not produce the high caliber of photos as the rest of the group. I am purely an amatuer photographer trying to become better, tips, advice and constructive criticism all help me learn and grow.
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I will also delete this comment in 7 days or less... :-)
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Does no one like the idea of having the comments here AND under the photo itself? Like Noe said, it's nice to read what others write here. We can delete the comments in this thread after a while? (this one too)
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@Gina: So sorry. I feel like my tone may have seemed a bit severe. I assure you it wasn't intentional.:-(((( Posted below (and in the photo is the original.
@Ineke: It's a fine idea. I'll try to abide by it. If people have to choose between on or the other (because they're pressed for time, etc.) I think they should make the photo-post the priority.
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i was not being ironic, i was just telling that it was not my idea for this thread. my concept was different, and i had reasons for that. maybe i expressed me wrong. but it seems that u all prefer the way u're doing, which is not the way i created/thought, so i pass this on. it doesn't make sense for me this way. it doesn't really matters for me, really.
the same happened before, and as Noe knows it was the main reason for me to leave. i don't do things here that i don't agree, or that doesn't give some pleasure doing it. this is supposed to be a hobbie, but when a hobbie doesn't give u satisfaction, there's no sense to keep doing it. it doesn't really matters for me, really.
doing what happened with the contest, u took away any sense for me, that's why i never went back to the contest thread. for me it would have been much more participation from each one of us. now u're begging votes. and i lost my interest there after what i found disrespectful to all of us, as i explained both in public and in private mails. for that i got the answer "recognize now my mistake and apologise would be humilliating, don't u think?". and this sentence is coming up to my mind everytime i open the jurors page.
i just lost my pleasure doing anything here, because it doesn't make sense for me anymore. i accepted to come back, giving to myself a second chance. but as i said, it doesn't really matters for me anymore.
after what happened, as i commented with some of the jurors, i lost my respect and pleasure. and i didn't got it back. so it really doesn't matter now.
sorry if i disappointed u.
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I find only a word from my vocabulary.
"GLOOMINESS".
Nothing else.
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Gon: I think if you read the above carefully you can see that a lot of us did care for what your intention was and tried to make amends. Rick and Gina and me and Osvaldo, we all tried to get it back in line with the way it was intended. But I don't understand why you atke it soooooo seriously when indeed it is about fun? Well, maybe this is not the place for these questions. I am just sorry that it didn't work out for you.
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My comment on your photo "comment space"
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I've been invited from a member to post this photo on the PJ thread. Since we have this J4J space I'll be happy to have your comments. The photo is a scan of an Ektachrome slide taken with an Olympus OM4 with a 70-200mm.zoom. It's an image from an experimental study series on beach bodyscapes. The quality is not that good, but i was interested in composition (in this case the reference is the Mantegna Christ in a profane version..)
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Great that this thread is back. I will comment later Osvaldo ok? And Sebastian. But please jurors, 1 photo at one time in this thread until the photo has had the comments it wanted.
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One at the time jurors please....first comment on the previous photo and wait until the photo is deleted again before posting a new one.
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@Ineke - One photo per juror at a time? Or should we all be commenting on Osvaldo's before adding others? Please delete mine if necessary.
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@daruma: yes, this the rule:
"...bellow the photo u post for us to comment, u may write down any of ur doubts or specific issues on the photo.
when u c that the tips or comments u had are enough or u're already satisfied, u may delete ur own image.please just 1 per Juror at the same time."
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@Nene - Thanks for looking after this newbie! I really appreciate your help.
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bump!
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@Helmet - Many thanks for taking the time to comment on the picture - I really appreciate it especially as I know how busy everyone is.
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I think I know what minimalism is but I had to look up the definition in order to explain it better.
- trend in design and architecture where in the subject is reduced to its necessary elements
- various forms of art and design, especially visual art and music, where the work is stripped down to its most fundamental features.
- anything which is spare or stripped to its essentials.
So, what makes a good minimalist shot? A photo in which the subject of the photo is not distracted by other unnecessary elements. That's a start anyway. Perhaps a photo haiku. :)
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Rik- A photo haiku? What a wonderful description. I love it. You should start a group with the name! And so this picture could be called Bridge of Basho? Would you object if I quote your words in the description of the picture? I'll also link through to your stream.
Photo haiku. Nice.
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daruma* edited this topic 4 months ago.
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That would be an interesting name for a group :) I'd be surprised if someone else hasn't thought of it already. Help yourself to the description daruma.
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Folks - Please could you help me and comment on this shot? It would be easiest for me if you could comment in the comment box on my photostream as that's the easiest for me to track. I took it a couple of weeks ago and on the one hand I have an instinctive like for it but on the other I feel that there is something wrong... Help! I really would appreciate your help and advice.
many thanks
Tom.
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Daruma, I think that it's a pretty cool image. Really... never seen such a shot before. Very creative and I really like the blue colors. Really great shot. Would be a YES from me.
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Thanks Sorceria - and thanks too to the other Jurors who commented on the shot. I really appreciate your help and observations. You taught me that it is good to take a risk and to seek out new horizons.
Now I just need to be a PS user and then I could give back the beak to the right hand bird!!
Maybe that's part of the next step of my journey :)
Thanks again
Tom
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Hi Tom.. Here is my version of your wonderful shot.
As you can see I've corrected the perspective to enhance the diagonality of the composition, I've added the beack (!!) and the third bird... Of course this is different, done in 10 minutesm and I'm not sure that it is better. Let me know what do you think (and excuse me for the manipulation, it is just an exemple of what I can't say by only words..)
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Oh wow!
I'm on my BlackBerry at the moment so I'm looking at it on a tiny screen. This means I can't make out the detail but I can definitely see the value of the extra space (Brett mentioned this need as well). All of a sudden the middle bird becomes a player in the game.
Osvaldo - thank you so, so much for taking the time to help me like this. Was it Seneca who said that no wind is favourable unless you know which port you're heading to? Well, I'm on a journey and this really does help me get a clearer idea of my destination. For one thing, I think I might have to learn some post processing techniques (PS or whatever). The slider I use to alter contrast, colour and temperature etc is
clearly not sufficient!
I am so very fortunate to have some very kind hearted and helpful Flickr friends. Thank you.
T
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Tom, I use a very simple post processing software that is free downlaod. Try it : "PhotoFiltre" is the name
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Wonderful work Osvaldo
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Agreed works great, Osvaldo
Tom 3 types of photographers these days in my eyes, one who can take fantastic shots, but cannot pp them to enhance, one who takes rubbish shots, but can manipulate and build up stunning wonderful images, and someone who is rare can do both :), you certainly got the capture, now learn the rest :)
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