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Looking a lot like random noise! Intriguing.
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... but if you change the color code you'll
see a scene from Gone With the Wind
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Wish I could see with a gradient color scale
instead of rainbow.
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But if you play it backwards, you can hear a
message from Satan.
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How do you play it backwards if there is no
end? Is Satan infinite, oh my.
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it's not a sailboat it's a schooner
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Did anyone ever read "Contact"?
Switch to base 11 and go out about a
billion digits.
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Random dot stereogram!!!
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Contact was a great book. Interesting idea
that explicit messages could be stored in
universal constants.
Are we just looking in the wrong way?
Dugg
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so Pi is random video noise? :)
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shouldn't it be plotted as a circle, not a
square?
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It's a sailboat!
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How many digits are plotted in this thing?
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Brilliant concept! As noted above, it looks
like random noise. Which is cool, because the
digits of PI are supposed to be random.
And adameros is right, too: If you cross
your eyes, you'll see a 3D image of God. :)
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Really cool.
nice tv. :p
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If you cross your eyes it turns out to be a
dinghy
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Aerotect [deleted] says:
Very Cool!
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awesome
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tforster, I'm with you, but what should the radius
be?
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so the point is ....?
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Mmmm, pi
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...after the first digit.
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I see a Schooner.....
It's a sailboat you dumd-ass
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What about drawing it in a logarithmic
spiral?
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"... but if you change the color code
you'll see a scene from Gone With the
Wind"
Isn't it true, seriously, that at some
point in the sequence there is a pattern that
will look like a scene from Gone With the
Wind? Of course, it would be a 10-color
pixely version.
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wow, so all these years I thought I had poor
cable reception. My TV was just showing me
Pi.
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Here's a gradient version:
www.flickr.com/photos/sidneysm/277691171/
EDIT: and for those lookin' for a
stereoscopic image, here's a slice from the
3D analysis:
www.flickr.com/photos/sidneysm/277699596/
Looks random, and other slices are similar.
Sorry...
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"Isn't it true, seriously, that at some
point in the sequence there is a pattern that
will look like a scene from Gone With the
Wind? Of course, it would be a 10-color
pixely version."
I hope so!
I <3.14 π
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its irrational and transcendental ;-) (Both
Pi and the image)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi
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Very good idea. I wonder if there would be a
better way to correlate the numbers to a
specific color...
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ooh! how do you generate the 3D analysis?
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Pi doesn't have any correlation patterns, and
the color scheme is irrelevant. You're
getting noise either way.
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TunaMan52:
In Photoshop, I duplicate the image layer
and set its blending mode to
"difference," then offset it
horizontally until an image emerges. Nudging
the layer moves to different slices of the 3D
image, and applying a gaussian blur to both
layers blurs depth so you can see a bigger
slice.
Hope that's coherent. It's a method I came
up with myself based on how those images are
affect our eyes.
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"Isn't it true, seriously, that at some
point in the sequence there is a pattern that
will look like a scene from Gone With the
Wind?"
Let's assume you are correct. The
randomness of pi exists independent of the
digits used to express it. Why limit your
rendering to base 10? How many colors are
possible in an 8 bit/channel image (your
average jpg)? 16,777,216.
So let's map pi in base 16777216!
Eventually you will find an 11x14"
picture (300dpi) of, well... everything! Pi
contains a full-color, pictographic,
annotated guide to the entire universe! It
even has pictures of your most intimate body
parts!
We just have to ignore the junk digits.
That leads to the question, "On average,
how many junk digits exist in-between all of
these sexy, 11x14" pictures at 300dpi?
Damned if I know, but maybe I'll find out.
I suppose you must be correct. It seems to
follow that an infinitely long, non-repeating
number must also have infinite complexity,
and infinite complexity means that all
knowledge is encoded within.
I say "encoding" on purpose. The
knowledge isn't *in* pi because
"knowledge" implies
"knowing" which requires thought.
It requires a thinking person to decode the
knowledge and perceive the thought. So it
really is just a bunch of random numbers. We,
as humans, are experts at finding patterns in
what is truly chaos.
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I think your T.V. is broken
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It is too bad some image of a piece of cheese
or an elephant or the all powerful God didn't
show up in the image. It could brought the
whole world together before we went back to
our seperate ways.
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you will all die in 7 days!!!
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or is it 6 days, or 555 days, or
3.1459......PIE days
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What would be cool is running each digit of
Pi in an equation and plotting points on a
graph like a fractal image.
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I don't get why the first square purple.
Shouldn't it be blue to represent the number
3? And then the second square should be red,
the third yellow. And so on. But instead of
blue, red, yellow; you have purple, salmon,
light brown.
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That's ridiculous, you can't arbitrarily to
start a new line every 100 (or whatever)
pixels and say that's what pi looks like! I
mean, take a normal picture, cut off every
line halfway through and make that the next
line, it'll be a different picture. You might
as well have made a pie chart (no pun
intended).
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I think I see a pattern
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sweet, i have finally found the uber
wallpaper.
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cool, where's e?
niyue.com
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If you look at it as a stereogram, you can
make out something that looks like a cursive
n.
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Digital Serialism. Nice.
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why in decimal system?
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To [P!]Wack: Nice concept!
To Elusive Byte: I think using Pi's
infinite randomness to generate all possible
sexy images is overkill, since there are only
a finite number of possible pictures
displayable with 2^16 colours at 1024x768.
Plus there are better algortihm for
generating pr0n, like um, photographing naked
folk. ;-)
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www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/10/04/385756-man-
recites-pi-t...
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"Isn't it true, seriously, that at some
point in the sequence there is a pattern that
will look like a scene from Gone With the
Wind?"
How hard will we have to search for that
frame?
A recognizable frame on the tee vee is
roundabouts 200 by 300 pixels, an image
composed of 200*300 = 60000 pixels. Let's
pretend it's only drawn in 10 colors, like
our pi picture here. The chance that a random
stream of pixels will paint out our picture
is one in 10^60000.
Let's pretend that the smallest unit of
time in our universe, the clock tick of our
cosmos, is the Planck time: ~10^-44 seconds.
From the big bang until now there have ticked
by nearly 10^17 seconds. That's 10^61 planck
time intervals.
So if we had a computer calculating pi
looking for Gone With The Wind in a 10-color
picture, looking at a new pixel every planck
time interval, from the beginning of time
until now, we are about one googleplexth of a
googleplexth of the way there.
What I'm saying here is, I guess, is that
to look into true randomness is to look into
something our pattern-finding brains gum up
with frustration just to consider. There is
nothing there. There is no circle encoded in
base 11. There is no Gone with the Wind in
there, anywhere. It isn't even like the void
between stars, with it's whispy tendrils of
gravity and solar wind. It's just simple
disorder more solid and stubborn than the age
and width of the universe, and don't trouble
yourself spending much more time thinking
about it.
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The individual (groups) of digits taken as a
sequence may have no pattern, but this value
isn't random by definition - it's pi!
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ewedistrict: you forget to take into account
the fact that many slightly different images
will look recognisably like Gone With The
Wind. There's probably thousands of thousands
of slight variations that are close enough to
count.
Still, such a number is pretty much
irrevelant at this scale.
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Geez, I'll do an radial version of this, but
the results will be so random as this.
Also there is a software that do the
inverse-fast-furier transform of a image to a
sound, the results I spect: noise.
well all rare experiments for freetime
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I see it!
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wohli [deleted] says:
Nice idea, i really like it
Hint: If you put all colors of one group
together, you'll get a rainbow ;D
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We all know the real reason for calculating
pi is to find the perfect picture of you and
Lucy Liu having sex.
(Something Postive(.net))
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Absolutely brilliant.
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"Isn't it true, seriously, that at some
point in the sequence there is a pattern that
will look like a scene from Gone With the
Wind?"
I don't see why that should be true. π
isn't a counter, which is what it would need
to be in order to guarantee that you
eventually had all the possible n-digit long
strings, where n is the number of pixels in
the image.
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since π is infinite all the writings of man
and all the media we have ever generated are
contained in the sequence known as pi
it is not a random number; we just haven't
found any patterns in it that we recognize
yet...
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"infinite" doesn't necessarily mean
"contains all possibilities". The
sequence of all even numbers
(246810121416182022...) is infinite, but the
number "17" doesn't appear in it
anywhere.
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"π isn't a counter, which is what it
would need to be in order to guarantee that
you eventually had all the possible n-digit
long strings, where n is the number of pixels
in the image."
If (and this is an open question, but it's
most likely true) pi is normal, than it
eventually contains every finite string.
Read Wagon, S. . "Is Pi
normal?",The Mathematical Intelligencer,
7(3), (1985), p 65-67.
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Hmm, good point. I'd forgotten that π is
probably normal. Not provably so, at least
not yet. But, yeah, I guess π could be a universe factory. But it isn't necessarily one. And it certainly isn't one just because
it's infinite.
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Jonah you basically just shut this
conversation down when you started citing
your references. That's my boy.
pkmaximoo: you're right and I'd considered
this, but omitted it for brevity's sake. One
simple way to account for this is to assume
there is a recognizable imagine in plain
black-and-white resembling Gone With The Wind
in a binary expansion of pi, in the smallest
possible imagine (which I contend is about
200 by 300 pixels). So the number we're
dealing with is 2^60000.
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What about using a non ten based system.
There might be an image somewhere in there
using base 8, base 12, or something.
Unlikely, but there could be.
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you have too much time on your hands
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Hey Mr. Patterson, you want to clue us all in
to what we should be doing? Because you seem
to have some idea. Or is that just one of
those reflexive statements from people who
can't appreciate that other people might have
... other interests?
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i sense you might have judged me, cardhouse.
you are wrong.
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The Flickr icons are only 48 x 48 (2304
pixels) and we could probably recognize a
still frame of GWTW or nearly any other movie
in that space. Of course in plain black
& white that makes for only 2^2304 unique
combinations... or 3.74*10^693 possible
frames. Still a pretty big search space.
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"but the number '17' doesn't appear in
it "
what about when you get to, say, 172 ?
[/nitpick]
Seriously, though, this is neat. There's
some crazy things you could do with
this...what's the average color? if you
manipulate the length of the rows, what
appears? etc
Also related to the data contained in pi ispi search.
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You see a cursive n? I see what's probably
the same shape but it looks like a question
mark, rotated slightly anticlockwise.
Wish we had this in a frame that could be
shifted in length/width and skewed. There
must be some proportion in which it the
sequence looks like there's some pattern.
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nick: yeah, I thought of that later. Oops.
The point is still valid, though, despite my
poor phrasing. The number 17 doesn't appear
anywhere in the infinite set of all even
numbers. The string "17" may, but
the number itself doesn't.
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Brenda?
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what does it look like in black and white,
with odd=black & even =white, or vice
versa?
Or Primes and non primes instead of even
odd?
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That's odd, I see a bronto, T-Rex,
pterodactyl, some palm trees, and a cave.
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This applet lets you play with the picture:
www.endofart.net/pi/
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Cornbread are square. Pi are round.
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@murlest: ^_^ really great work
@all: I'm workin' in a radial version, I
hope to post it in about an hour
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@all: news, see the Round one
more randomness from Pi
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Wow.
Interesting discussion, too.
The applet at endofart.net is cool, too,
though I can't help reading 'endofart' as
'endo fart'. Like endohedral, or endo-exo
isomerism in chemistry. Not nearly so
profound as pi being a universe factory, but
I'm just sayin'.
Concerning whether 17 appears in the list
of even numbers, and whether that
matters...clearly the string isn't excluded,
like RJL20 says, but it is constrained where
it can appear, that is, who its neighbors may
be. Actually, this is more a question, since
I lack the patience or number theoretic
ability to answer the question, and maybe
it's obvious to one of you math mavens.
It isn't exactly clear to me that exclusion
of a given number N being any ol' place would
preclude a universe factory. Dunno.
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Well you know what? There is no easter bunny!
Over there, that's just a guy in a suit!
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"The Flickr icons are only 48 x 48 (2304
pixels) and we could probably recognize a
still frame of GWTW or nearly any other movie
in that space. Of course in plain black &
white that makes for only 2^2304 unique
combinations... or 3.74*10^693 possible
frames. Still a pretty big search
space."
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Could you make it a circle instead of a
rectangle?
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Add it to the flickr.com/groups/digg/
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awesomely awesome!
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wow. pi is crazy. lol
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cool , i like the idea ,it really shows that
there is no pattern
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if i where you i would try to learn it with
SVM :D
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MiNA, how would you use SVM for finding a
pattern? Rather than a discriminative
learner, I would use a generative one. I
think you need a model, and find it (and its
parameters) in the set of numbers.
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