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Jonathan Vo 5:38pm, 12 May 2007
So this was orignally supposed to be a thread about getting info on what to do when a company approaches you to use your pictures, but it turned out to be completely off topic.

Fotomagazin, and freelance writer Anja are doing an article on Camera tossing, and have contacted select members of the camera tossing community to submit thoughts and photos to the article. So this thread is going to be about Fotomagazin related topics.

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David H. Hull 15 years ago
Timely. Did you recently get contacted by someone who is writing an article for fotomagazin? I did. Having only previously sold prints of my photos, I am a bit out of my depth here. But I would assume that at the least, one needs a signed contract regarding the rights of their image(s). I'm Hoping Jens Ludwig and Ryan Gallagher will provide some guidance, as the standards of costs I am used to are for different kinds of images (nature photography).
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clickykbd 15 years ago
A short note, as I replied to both of you regarding fotomagazin via email. A contract outlining their allowed use of the image is IDEAL. But I've rarely seen such a document when dealing with photography magazines.

Jonathan's question posed here is a bit broader than just dealing with a photography magazine... so I'll try to come back and put some thoughts down later.
faint rain [deleted] 15 years ago
I think it depends if the paper wants to really buy your picture or just askes for permission to print it. Die Zeit only needed an e-mail permission to use it in their online version. I granted it only for the use in their gallery but kept all the copy rights (no payment). I don´t know how it will be with the fotomagazin. Because they contacted me too, it would be nice to know how you go along with this.
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David H. Hull 15 years ago
Probably wouldn't be a bad idea for us all to compare notes prior to publication of the article, no? As Ryan suggested, and based on the fact that both the journalist and the magazine appear to be pretty reputable, this is a good opportunity for us all.

Any suggestions for what might be the best way to figure out who all might be participating, and for us to communicate as things progress? Another discussion thread in this group? Or something a little less public?
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David H. Hull 15 years ago
OK, the fun begins. I just got a list of questions from Anja, and a request for a speedy response...something Ryan mentioned as a potential red-flag. I would assume y'all got the list of questions moments ago, too. Again, any thoughts on how to provide a somewhat 'unified' front, or any interest in this kind of approach to the article/exposure?
faint rain [deleted] 15 years ago
Well, I think she has a lot of questions...
In the end she likes to have different personal views, so she can compare it and get an better overview. I can go along with this. She said she primarily wants to give an overview of the cameratoss community. The red flag I don´t know what that means, would be nice if someone can explain that. Money is not involved, so we have to be sure to keep our copyrights.
Jonathan Vo 15 years ago
According to Ryan, we should avoid journalists who try to whip up a quick article instead of doing it carefully and in a timely manner. And with Anja wanting a quick response, it could be assumed that this may be one of those articles that are whipped up quickly without thought put into it. Therefore labeled as a red-flag by mtnrockdhh.
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David H. Hull 15 years ago
Traded emails with Ryan, and his take is that since this mag is respectable, we should try to work with Anja's timeline to the extent feasible. Good luck all. I'm waiting to hear how Anja plans to select images for inclusion in the article. Anyone get any indications of her plans for this effort?
Jonathan Vo 15 years ago
Nope, but Im really busy! How am i supposed to fit in time to do this by monday evening...hmmm....lets see...i have a Grand Rounds clinical presentation for a hospital tomorrow....and school....and an AP test coming up....oye lots of work to do...
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David H. Hull 15 years ago
I think I'll see if I can get a picture of what I am hearing...the world's smallest violin playing ;-). I hear ya bro...I'm pulling an all-nighter tonight prepping for a meeting on Tuesday. Yee Haaa! Who needs sleep?!
faint rain [deleted] Posted 15 years ago. Edited by faint rain (member) 15 years ago
Just found her homepage. You can see some of her older articles there. Ah, and she is a freelancer.
www.anjamartin.net/referenzen.php
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clickykbd 15 years ago
It's now monday and I'm just getting around to reading her questions... obviously in cases like this, if you were contacted participation is entirely up to you and what you are comfortable with.

The "red-flag" you all ask about was only due to the rushed timeline... and had other things also indicated a lack of professionalism I would have probably not granted an interview or given any permissions... but in this particular case... the timeline seems to be the only sticky spot... so i elected to participate.

If you find yourself being contacted constantly it might help to prepare some press material that you can just hand them upon request... press ready images... a statement... perhaps a interview FAQ. But if they express interest in speaking to you it is usually a good idea to do so.

As far as the pay topic... I don't have a ton of experience by comparison but very few magazines or newspapers have offered to pay for a photo in relation to this topic. A couple, strangely did, but I think it was simply a thank you gesture. It really depends on how you plan to use your images, and how they plan to, that determines if you should be sharing them for publication so openly or at all.

I highly recommended this read to the others who contacted me... it rings very true after having dealt with so many press folks over the last year. It was written by the founder of MetaFilter, different industry but the advice still feels relevant.

How to talk to the press (blog article)
fortuito.us/2007/05/how_to_talk_to_the_press
Jonathan Vo 15 years ago
Thanks for the advice, I just spent an hour answering her questions and have sent them in. I however am having lots of difficulty picking my top camera tosses...hmm...any obvious ideas? View lightxposed if you want to help. Be sure to check out archives to see all of my camera tosses.
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David H. Hull 15 years ago
Picking your top images is always a little harder that one might think, I think. I whittled mine down to 14 to start with based in part on the kinds of responses I got from the flickr crowd, and in part based on images that displayed a bit of variability towards the differing kinds of techniques/results we've been recently discussing. Anja expressed to me that she was also interested in self-portrait tosses, and a set of pre-toss/post-toss images, like we've been discussing on the camera toss sites thread.

But if you ask me, I don't think you should submit any, so the rest of us can submit more! ;-)
faint rain [deleted] 15 years ago
@jon
I pretty like your purple series and the green gardening light (did I remember that right?) is a fav
@all
I just sent her 15 images, could not decide. Who could...?
Jonathan Vo Posted 15 years ago. Edited by Jonathan Vo (member) 15 years ago
Wow, hmm....this is hard, i recalled her requesting for 5 to 6 of the best ones...or am i just making up a number?

EDIT: no im not.. "If you can agree on that we would be glad to receive a small selection of 4 to 6 of your favourite images in high resolution."

So i sent her 6 of my top ones...i really wanted to send in the gardening light one, but it was only 640x480 pixels, and im pretty sure thats not enough for a quality magazine print.

"But if you ask me, I don't think you should submit any, so the rest of us can submit more! ;-) " Hmm....how about not?
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David H. Hull Posted 15 years ago. Edited by David H. Hull (moderator) 15 years ago
@ jon - I thought that might 'get ya'.

Actually, I would recommend you submit your flickr icon toss for sure, purple lum 8, sophisticated, gardening light (might not need to be of higher res due to the composition as diffuse light), and a selection of one or two of the TV/cathode tube tosses. Got any self-portrait tosses? Crank one out tonight. One of what you think is your best atomic tosses? I was going to submit one of my atomic tosses with some infused sunset light, but didn't.
Jonathan Vo 15 years ago
Actually i submitted a smiliar list to what you had advised me to submit.
Yup, i submitted my icon toss. Its one of my most structured tosses. The only thing I didn't submit was the gardening light, but since both of you guys suggested it, I might pop it in with another email.

This is very exciting. But judging on this thread, were us 4 the only ones contacted? I would've suspected a larger number of people, but i guess not. I would say its a pretty wide range of tossers though from somewhat a wide location. Right? Ryan and I are both from TX. But theres a big age difference...really big (perhaps 20+ years age difference?)....its going to be interesting to see how our differences are noted in the article.

BTW, this thread is completely off topic, im going to rename it.
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clickykbd 15 years ago
She was pressed for time of course... it may just be you three (and myself). Often the reporters seem to grab people from the top of the photo pool and you all have been active of late.

These articles still seem to occur quite frequently... so if you weren't contacted I am there there will be other chances.
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David H. Hull 15 years ago
I made her call Jens Ludwig, and she did. Considering ADobe used his images and he's right there in Germany, I thought it prudent. She also mentioned she ahd someone else on the docket from Germany, but I don't know who.

Of course there'll be other opportunities...we're all gonna be rich and famous, no? Can't wait to go on the David Letterman Show!
Jonathan Vo 15 years ago
Obviously we will be rich and famous. Think about the millions of readers this will reach!

Haha...i wish...but it's some exposure, and something to tell people. According to anja, it's going to be published mid-June, so we can expect our copies to arrive in around July? That'll be exciting.

Just wondering, did you guys answer all of the questions?
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clickykbd 15 years ago
I almost did, think I skipped a couple. I had a few custom ones but otherwise she asked us many of the same questions.
faint rain [deleted] Posted 15 years ago. Edited by faint rain (member) 15 years ago
Yesterday I took a look into the latest copy of fotomagazin, wondering if I can get it at my small home town. So , I don´t have much experience with photographic magazins, it looked very proffessional to me. I am now really looking forward to get the new issue. And I think it´s very kind that she is sending us copys, but maybe that´s normal.
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David H. Hull 15 years ago
I answered all the Qs. Nothing seemed too controversial to me, but then I'm used to being misquoted in newspaper coverage of some of the high-visibility environmental cleanup projects I work on.
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David H. Hull 15 years ago
The most understandable of the items I've found on fotomagazin.

www.mediapilot.de/cda/download_file.php?download=../image...
Jonathan Vo Posted 15 years ago. Edited by Jonathan Vo (member) 15 years ago
Here's some more specs on fotomagazin here

Here is the newer 2007 rate card
www.jahrtsv.de/internet/PDF_preislisten/fotoMAGAZIN_Rate_...

I've also made a lil splurge on it on my blog
lightxposed.blogspot.com/2007/05/fotomagazin-interview-ar...
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clickykbd 15 years ago
It sounds like a few others are being contacted for photos only. If you have any concerns feel free to shoot me a message. Ferro did so recently.
_ferro_ 15 years ago
Yes, I did. Thnx clicky.

Finally I sent the answers to the questionary + plus the permission to use the photos. But I'm not sure wether if I made it on time or not ;-)
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clickykbd 15 years ago
cool ferro, as I told you via email already... I think it's important that the sell phone distortions and self portraits have representation too... and your stuff happens to often be BOTH!
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QuakkauQ | Jens Ludwig 15 years ago
I have also been contacted by Anja for an interview for the fotomagazin article. Thanks to Dave ; ) I've answered all her question and I think I had a few custom ones. I also send her photos for the article.
It is the second German magazin who asked for an interview and photos, but this magazin is really a big one in Germany, you can buy it everywhere in the stores, so when the magazin is published in late June a lot of people in the German speaking countries (Germany, Switzerland and Austria) can see the beautiful art of camera tossing :)
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David H. Hull 15 years ago
!!!!! :-D
ok on a related tip: i m getting some stuff blown up for an exhibit.

any one ever sold tosses in a gallery setting? and how much did you charge?
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David H. Hull 15 years ago
What size prints? I've not sold from a gallery, but have parted with archival quality toss prints up to 13x19 for between $200 to $500...just prints, no matte/frame. I'd reckon you can get more in a gallery and framed. Ryan?
Jonathan Vo 15 years ago
Hmm...I can imagine a gallery of camera tosses all on gallery wrapped canvas. That would be stunning. Maybe you could look into printing on a canvas and wrapping it? That would get you more?

Expanding upon the topic of canvas prints, how much would a canvas print sell for you think? Say a size of 27 x 32 inch or 18 x 24 inch?
Valentinian 15 years ago
Wow... $200 to $500 for a print? That way, if you break your camera while tossing it, you can run out and buy a new one... heck, two or three new ones, after you make a sale!

I've got an idea... I wonder if you could toss TWO cameras at once... and maybe have the first camera catch the second camera in flight, even better start shooting cameras out of one of those tennis practicing thingies, and instead of a Camera Toss it would be more like a Camera Catapult!

Just having a little fun, but your comments ARE insightful...
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David H. Hull 15 years ago
Great Idea! I'm running out to the sports store! Add a golf practice netgymnastics pad as a catcher, and I bet you cut lost cameras by 50%.
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clickykbd Posted 15 years ago. Edited by clickykbd (admin) 15 years ago
there are tons of ways you could construct inventive crash pads... the trick is making a portable one (if you are into finding subjects out and about).

@this_is_not_a_name
That kinda depends on the buying audience actually... art pricing is a strange beast. Is it a local show at a cafe? A local gallery? A non-local gallery!?! Curious to know the details.
its a restaurant/art gallery type setting

i was thinking much lower prices because i want too sell them :]

buying audience is young and or hip and spends money on art.

i ll post all ze details including shots of the expo if it takes off
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David H. Hull 15 years ago
In that setting, I;ve seen framed art up to about 14x20 going for $100 to $250. That doesn't seem unreasonable, especially for young and or hip folks who like to spend money on art. What size are the prints you will be offering...that has a large bearing on cost.
Jonathan Vo 15 years ago
Hmm....i need money to get auto insurance....this could be my key...

Anyways, if you are doing prints, what format/paper would the prints be in? Is it like a glossy photo print you get at a store? Or is it something special?
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clickykbd 15 years ago
A primary determining factor of art prices tends to be if the price is about the physical art... or about the artist and the idea behind the art. Art priced based on an artist's reputation and ideas tends to be much higher in general, but appeal to a small audience.

Another factor, especially with photographic prints, is the exclusivity of the print. A single print exclusive can fetch a high price, but this requires a buying audience that cares about the exclusivity, which most don't until you start to attract collectors/investors in an art gallery setting.

But a "limited edition" of a print is always a good idea, and is attractive to collectors and the general public alike. Obviously there are two camps. Some photographers have priced low and produced unlimited editions... and simply because of the pervasive nature of their prints in our culture, develop a name that way, and a good living to boot, but are generally frowned upon by more critical audiences.

It's quite a paradox.

If you want to see how silly (and interesting) art pricing can be. Check out this project. Brilliant statement about the market.
faint rain [deleted] 15 years ago
Hi Jon,
this one came out in mid may, and there is no story about us in it. I looked it up in a store. So, I think we have to wait until the next issue. Would have been very fast to write and edit an article in a week.
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David H. Hull 15 years ago
All,

Just heard from Anja Martin. She said she's doing a good job on the article, rather than trying to meet deadlines ( a really good thing), but that it will be published in mid-June for the July edition of foto magazin.
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clickykbd 15 years ago
That is good news. Guess she got feedback+photos that she felt deserved a little more time/attention. Very few journalists have really gotten their heads around all the different aspects of this, but then most weren't willing to try, and I could only lead them so much with my words. Here's to hoping Anja's piece goes against that trend.
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David H. Hull Posted 15 years ago. Edited by David H. Hull (moderator) 15 years ago
I'll drink to that!

And, while I'm not aware of the history of coverage of the technique(s) to a large degree, I would say it does seem that she is covering a lot of ground in her article from the many emails we've had. I'm assuming each of the other folks being included in the article have also had several communiques with her as well...yes?
Jonathan Vo Posted 15 years ago. Edited by Jonathan Vo (member) 15 years ago
Hmm...no not really. I had a second email as to the meanings of the titles and how each one of my submitted images were made. But that's mainly it...

Also, it seems were keeping the closing of Command Z at a quiet level...is something going on...? I thought it was a great experience. Gave me a reason to say "my photos were in a art museum." hehe...
_ferro_ 15 years ago
I had a second email from Anja asking permission to link the article with the URL to my flickr. Which I did.

;-)
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clickykbd 15 years ago
As for Command-Z question...

Yes it closed on the 26th. The web gallery is still up but I'll be disabling submissions as soon as I find time. I am hoping to get some feedback and or documentation shots from the curators, I was going to post about it more when I have those. Digiarte, in Florence, also closed the same day!

Nice job everyone who participated. The slideshow had a wide variety and made for an interesting presentation I am sure.
Jonathan Vo 14 years ago
Any new updates or information concerning Fotomagazin anyone?
faint rain [deleted] 14 years ago
Preview for the next issue appears on 15th. This friday.
Jonathan Vo Posted 14 years ago. Edited by Jonathan Vo (member) 14 years ago
Thats good news to hear.
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David H. Hull 14 years ago
She's been busy pulling it together!
Beer30 14 years ago
I feel so neglected. ;-)
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clickykbd 14 years ago
I'm sure she appreciates the time to work on it without constant inquiries from everyone. ;-)
faint rain [deleted] 14 years ago
Agree with Ryan, and -
you have to wait a bit longer. The issue came out today and we are not in it. So it will be next time. Sry, guys.
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David H. Hull 14 years ago
All,

Just got an email from Anja Martin. She is traveling, but will try to get back to each of the folks in the article soon. She said that the toss article will be in the August issue of foto mag, that it will be 5 pages, and 'we all' got some presentation.

I'm hoping that a couple of you guys from Germany can provide us language-challenged persons a translation of the article (???).
Beer30 14 years ago
Alle,

Erhielt gerade ein email von Anja Martin. Sie reist, aber wird versuchen, zurück zu jedem der völker im artikel bald zu erhalten. Sie sagte, daß der werfenartikel in der August ausgabe von foto mag ist, das, das es 5 seiten ist, und ' wir alle ' erhielten irgendeine darstellung.

Ich hoffe, daß ein paar von, das ihnen kerle aus Deutschland uns zur Verfügung stellen können personen eine Übersetzung des artikels (???). Sprache-herausforderte
Jonathan Vo 14 years ago
Whether that was a real translation or a computer translation, it looks impressive! Only a little bit longer to wait...
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clickykbd 14 years ago
Good news. Speaking of translations... now that Flickr supports multiple language group descriptions. I think it is high time I come up with something more concise and submit it to the community for translation into all the flickr supported locales.

I'll post separately when I have done so and solicit folks to do a translation then.
faint rain [deleted] 14 years ago
I think we germans will translate it (with best knowledge) - beer´s translation (think it was a generated one) is quiet funny.
_ferro_ 14 years ago
count me in for portuguese!
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clickykbd 14 years ago
haha... yeah I emphasize that machine translations are crap. Maybe enough to get the jist of something... but nothing you'd want to post anywhere in any official capacity. Trust me, I may only speak english well but my best friend is a linguist and I absorbed quite a bit of info... there is also a fun talk from google TechTalks on translation issues.

an introduction to world-ready authoring
Jonathan Vo Posted 14 years ago. Edited by Jonathan Vo (member) 14 years ago
Recently got a flickr mail from Anja stating that it's almost here and will be officially released in August. But printing and all that is basically done. Wonder how this is going to turn out! Sounds really good so far.

And, i think according to the Fotomagazin website, a preview is coming out on the 13th. "Vorschau: Heft 08/2007 erscheint am 13.07.2007"
faint rain [deleted] 14 years ago
The august issue will come out on 13th, so next friday I can tell you how it turned out. Sadly, I don´t have a scanner.
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clickykbd 14 years ago
Anja was very nice about promising copies to all contributors... so the only reason to scan/photograph is to share here in the community for those that didn't talk to her.
Jonathan Vo 14 years ago
Time has come. The issue is officially released. Ready yet?
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David H. Hull 14 years ago
I see the reference to the article, but don't see that one can access it on-line.
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QuakkauQ | Jens Ludwig 14 years ago
The issue is released today!!! I've already bought one, couldn't wait to get my copy by mail :)) The article is great, lots of photos and erveryone who was interviewed is mentioned by name and flickr oder website address.
faint rain [deleted] 14 years ago
Dito, bought it too. Here are some overview pictures. There are too bad to break any copyright, but you can see your pictures.


Jonathan Vo 14 years ago
Wow thanks for the quick snapshots tossthecam! This was much better than I had expected. Good job Anja!

@Tossthecam: Is there a link back to my flickr site or my blog by any chance?
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QuakkauQ | Jens Ludwig Posted 14 years ago. Edited by QuakkauQ | Jens Ludwig (moderator) 14 years ago
@john
Yes there is a link in the article to your blog.
Everyone who is mentioned in the article has a link to their own flickr site or website.
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David H. Hull 14 years ago
Looks pretty good. Can't wait for a translation to see what Anja had to say. Kudos to Anja, and all all involved.
Jonathan Vo 14 years ago
Thanks QuakkauQ! I didn't see that small top portion of the article earlier.

"The Great Throw" Not a bad title either
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clickykbd 14 years ago
Thanks for the page shots tossthecam. Pretty extensive article from what I can tell. Always a tie in to Satugo though... which is getting a little old, haha, considering they have been in the "seeking funding" phase despite all the help from camera toss and press. I hope they get it eventually! Nice guys, met them in Hamburg. Plus I want to play with it eventually.

I'll sit tight until anja mails me one. Can anyone tell if they cited Ottmar Hoerl or Lew Thomas? I often worry some of the press about camera tossing annoys the art world for failing to cite prior examples of similiar things. And this time, I think I forgot to mention it in the interview. Alas.
faint rain [deleted] 14 years ago
Your all welcome, I knew how much you wanted to see at least the look of the article (at least, I know that i would have problems with waiting). I think she tried mainly to show the people who are tossing cameras, starting with some personal experience (police and all) from David. In the end it´s an overview to introduce camera tossing to others with an understandable (for my opinion) lack of details. So, no citation of Hoerl or Thomas, Ryan.
I don´t know if I find the time but I will start to translate it, maybe with help of Jens. If you like to we should mail who is doing which part.
Have fun.
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clickykbd 14 years ago
A translation would be cool, but by all means take your time... translation is hard work and I wouldn't ask that of anyone that didn't "want" to do it.
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David H. Hull 14 years ago
Nonsense!!! You WILL translate that article, and you will translate it NOW!

:-D
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QuakkauQ | Jens Ludwig Posted 14 years ago. Edited by QuakkauQ | Jens Ludwig (moderator) 14 years ago
I can help with the translation. My English is not perfect but I think it will be ok :)
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clickykbd 14 years ago
Hey QuakkauQ! Long time no see!
faint rain [deleted] 14 years ago
QuakkauQ agreed to help me with the translation of the article, please give us some time ;-). Would be great, if someone of the native speakers will have a look on it, before we post major mistakes. Let me know.
_ferro_ 14 years ago
oh my! it looks great! thanks tossthecam for sharing this.
i have to tell: these events really make me feel part of the cameratoss comunity. thank you ryan for all the support and advice. thank you all for all your friendly comments and incentive.
Jonathan Vo 14 years ago
I'll be willing to proof the English translation if you need me to.
Jonathan Vo 14 years ago
It was quite interesting to reread this whole thread to see the development and excitement grow as the article progressed. I was also skimming the article and found that everyone is so relatively old! (No offense intended). I would have thought that the majority of the camera tossing community would be much younger, though I don't know why I thought that...
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David H. Hull Posted 14 years ago. Edited by David H. Hull (moderator) 14 years ago
You mean, Jon, you found that you were just a kid?!!! ;-)

Looks like Fernando and I are the old men of the bunch...I guess that explains why our art is so much more sophisticated than everyone elses! Yeow! :-D
_ferro_ 14 years ago
mature, sophisticated and exquisite, I would say ;-)
Jonathan Vo Posted 14 years ago. Edited by Jonathan Vo (member) 14 years ago
@ the old men above: very funny... (though more mature may apply in this case)
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clickykbd 14 years ago
Actually that is an extremely common misconception about all this, being that only young punks would get into anything as "extreme" as throwing cameras. Sure, lots of young kids tried it when it was spreading like wildfire... but i'd guess the average age of those that have stuck around and really contributed something to the community to be 25-35, and by no means limited to that age range.
_ferro_ 14 years ago
guys, are there any news from the mailed magazines? did any of you - who requested so - receive it alreadY? I'm rushing to my mail box every day :-)
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QuakkauQ | Jens Ludwig Posted 14 years ago. Edited by QuakkauQ | Jens Ludwig (moderator) 14 years ago
@ferro
I received my copy on Tuesday it was send off in Berlin on Monday. I think for countries others than Germany it will take about one week to deliver.
Jonathan Vo 14 years ago
On average magazines that ship internationally (Namely to the U.S.) will take anywhere from 1 to 2.5 weeks to arrive. So it won't be here for a while, assuming that they sent out all of the magazines on Monday.
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David H. Hull 14 years ago
No mag yet for me. ferro will probably get his before us State-siders get ours.

@ Ryan - I must be an immature 44 year old, then, as I'm still into other 'extreme' things - big-wall rock and alpine climbing, 'extreme' skiing, 'extreme' skateboarding (big mountain roads), having a 10-year old daughter, etc. Though I'm old enough that I never learned to call those things 'extreme'. Seems hard to imagine a tossed camera as being 'extreme', but it sure seems like there are a lot of fearful photographers out there.
Jonathan Vo 14 years ago
@ Ryan - I was just surprised that the more active of the camera tossers were composed mainly of the older [more mature] generations. I had thought there would be more younger people. I wouldn't call camera tossing extreme either... And by no means am I one of those "young punks." Haha...
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clickykbd 14 years ago
Regarding magazine, no don't have my physical copy yet, but I too am in the US.

Regarding age. Wish I could get that information from the API, would be fun to do a visualization of age breakdown against photos tagged cameratoss. I think the misconception was mostly in the press.. a few early clippings made direct, although invalid, comparisons to things like extreme sports etc etc. I'm not suggesting anyone here has really perpetuated that misconception. And Anja did a much better job it seems by talking to a wide range of members, which, as Jonathan points out... turns out to be a different age breakdown than one might expect by first hearing about it.
_ferro_ 14 years ago
thank you guys! i will wait patiently (sigh...)
Well, here it goes... So far it looks like I could be the oldest at 47. If I break any more cameras, my wife may not let me make it to 48! ;-)
Jonathan Vo 14 years ago
Anyone receive theirs yet? If everything went smoothly, magazines should start coming in to the states either this week or next week : )
_ferro_ 14 years ago
I received mine a week ago (Friday the 27th July) :-)
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clickykbd 14 years ago
Not yet. I'm now awaiting two international mailings from magazines.
Jonathan Vo 14 years ago
@ Ferro - That is considering that you live much closer to Germany than the States : )
Teluktomini 14 years ago
Hi all of you who joined the fotomagazin article. I didn't wanted to post in your thread earlier because it's your discusion group and I didn't want to disturb you in changing thoughts about the thematic. But after it' s published now I would like to thank all of you. The one's who did not receive a copy right now: If ferro received you all will receive because your adresses were all in the same list. The shipping takes some time. I try to get a pdf for all of you additionally but there is some delay also, but I hope I can email it during the next days. Once again, thank you, you were great. My first efforts in tossing my mobile weren't very sucessful so I can't show you anything yet. But if I get better results I will post them. nice summer time!
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