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Dollymae Dagger 7:10pm, 8 September 2012
You know how there are a lot of repetitive statues in cemeteries? Like the "Angel of Grief" or the "Rock of Ages"?
Can anybody identify this one
Prayer Boy
I just always called him, "Prayer Boy." But after spending over 5 years now on flickr, I have come to notice a thing or two (lol)
I see these repetitive statues frequently, and then have finally wised up that most are reproductions of an original. The most famous are usually of European origin.
I just want to thank you for stopping to read this, and any advice that is offered.
Dollymae
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inetjoker 9 years ago
I call the one here Loin cloth boy.

Eyes up again

The one here is real old from the 1800s and seems to be made from local yellow clay and fired brick hard.

I have no idea but you know me I will try and find out for you Dolly.
gray1720 9 years ago
If it's a yellowish "stone", then I think it's probably a type of stoneware called Coade Stone, or a similar ceramic.
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inetjoker Posted 9 years ago. Edited by inetjoker (admin) 9 years ago
Yep Yellowish.
Pray Boy Color 3

Pray boy Color 2
Pianowerk 9 years ago
In the back of my mind I have a thought that its something to do with "suffer the little children to come unto me" which I think is a Victorian painting, and these sorts of poses was based on that.

I'll have a cup of tea and see if I can come up with anything better!
spotboslow 9 years ago
Its name is "Pampaloni's Prayer", and it is Italian in origin.

He has his own group here on Flickr:
www.flickr.com/groups/littlesamuel/
Pianowerk 9 years ago
spotboslow - great to know the answer.
gray1720 9 years ago
Could well be Coade Stone - here's some more - all the figures are restored Coade Stone:

www.flickr.com/photos/amawby/5123565143/

I must confess, I never thought we'd get an answer as I though it was just a generic 19th century "weeper" - I wonder if he was a catalogue item? You could certainly order everything you wanted for a coffin from catalogues from companies like Newman Brothers, not sure about memorials....
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inetjoker 9 years ago
Thanks for all the info.
Pianowerk 9 years ago
As I understand it, the recipe for Coade stone (homepage.ntlworld.com/peter.fairweather/docs/Coade_Stone.htm)
meant that in most respects it resisted weathering and discolouration (compared to the Pampaloni's Prayer examples here), even in smoky old London during Victorian times. It may be that the statues shown are indeed ceramic but perhaps not as well made as Coade?

I have a picture here of a statue of Euterpe, the Muse of Instrumental Music. A terracotta figure, one of nine muses which decorated the facade of the Apollo Inn (1898) on the corner of Tottenham Court Road and Torrington Place.This is in St Georges Gardens, London (formerly the church yard, where the first recorded case of ‘body-snatching' (the theft of corpses for medical research and teaching) took place here in 1777. It looks very similar in colour to the Pampaloni.

IMG_7716
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inetjoker 9 years ago
Who says no one reads the post here? This is interesting about the Coade stone but the reason I figured that it was some type of cast clay is I have see 3 of them in my time and the curls in the hair are exactly the same. Also all the ones I have seen in this area are the same size.
Pianowerk 9 years ago
Yes, thinking about it, terracotta lends itself to repetition using moulds (I understand that's how much of the bodies of the Terracotta warriors were made, though the repetition did not occur on the heads as many of them are completely different)which would be cheaper and faster.
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inetjoker 9 years ago
Yes I went out today and touched it today and looked closer at it.. It is not carved as I found a seam though worn and polished out was still there after all these years.. so it is some type of casting that was fired slow and long with excellent clay. The seam was between part of the rear and the base. I think that the base is also part of the statue is another give me a hint that it is cast.
Sylvain Francois 9 years ago
This is an interesting topic. It would be fantastic to create some sort of catalog of the statues we usually meet in cemeteries, including their origin, history and original name if possible. Who wants to start? :-)

I was once surprised to see one of my favorites statues (see below) in a TV series. I am not sure which TV series it was though, I think it was X-Files - I watch too many of those I guess!

My question is: do you know the name of this statue or its origin? I call it "Star angel" :-)

Thank you!

Star Angel
Dollymae Dagger Posted 9 years ago. Edited by Dollymae Dagger (member) 9 years ago
Wow.... thanks for all the great responses everybody. I got so distracted with life in general, I totally forgot that I posted this question. This is the first time I have checked back.

This group is obviously a lively bunch. But often times, I have posted questions to other cemetery groups with no response. Just check out my "Dying to be Famous - Forever" group. I asked people to introduce themselves, 5 weeks ago, and not one member has taken the time to respond.
I really like this group a lot! Especially out of all the graveyard groups out there!
Dollymae Dagger 9 years ago

As for your little guy with the star on his head, I don't know of another exactly like it. But now and again I will see other angels with stars on their head.
Here is one of mine. It's hard to see, because the poor thing has a broken star
Carnation Angel
johnncox 9 years ago
One of the better known graveyard statutes with a star on her head. Oakdale Cemetery, Henderson, NC. This statute was the inspiration for the title of Thomas Wolfe's book, "Look Homeward Angel."

Look Homeward Angel (1905)
Sylvain Francois 9 years ago
I never saw this "taller version" of "my" star angel. Thank you for sharing!
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inetjoker 9 years ago
There is another thread that someone recently posted another Angel Star photo it was in the last few days.. I try to follow all the threads....
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inetjoker Posted 9 years ago. Edited by inetjoker (admin) 9 years ago
PeteZab has a good one as the last post in the Angels thread right here..Star and all
Angel #1 by PeteZab
Pianowerk 9 years ago
I think that the star on the head is related to the idea that the person is going to heaven (where the stars are) and that there is nothing to fear or mourn as God has called the person in(as it were!).
Glenn McNaughton 9 years ago
Here's the brightest example I've seen of the kneeling boy, this is in Sete, FrancePraying..
Glenn McNaughton 9 years ago
One of the "star" angels, this one in EdinburghDowncast..
ghostdancer3 9 years ago
Hello, Does anyone know were the grave yard is that's featured on the front cover of Michael Ruetz book 'Nekropolis' or even better who is the statue ?

michaelruetz.com/books_70s_nekropolis.html

Thanks Stu.
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