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asterope* Posted 17 years ago
I scored myself a 30+ meter tin of ilford p400 surveillance film on ebay for the princely sum of $8.50 AUD (it was $5.50 postage!!) and i have had it sitting in my freezer waiting for the day i scored myself a bulk film loader.

the question on everyones lips is... has anyone used this stuff? can i process it in rodinal? :)

Gotta love cheap film! please tell me i dont need to go get a bottle of DDX to process this stuff because it wont be cheap that way anymore :P

Thanks muchly in advance!
illustrious side [deleted] Posted 17 years ago
"Surveillance film"....I love the sound of that.....I've never heard of it, but can't wait to see some results. You could always shoot it, then develop it in 1:100 Rodinal for an hour or so, or go the Diafine route.
handy title [deleted] Posted 17 years ago
Is it SFX?
TheWishy Posted 17 years ago
From what I picked up on the ilford tour, this is used for the dreaded speed cameras.

Think they said it was very similar to one of their other films (Maybe SFX, could be wrong), but packaged differently
harmonious sink [deleted] Posted 17 years ago
Can I buy a roll off you when you get a bulk loader? :-D
Brenden T Wilson Posted 17 years ago
Email them and ask?
illustrious side [deleted] Posted 17 years ago
what are the "dreaded speed cameras"?!
mattmoy_2000 Posted 17 years ago
Ones that take a picture when you drive too fast, AKA GATSO.
illustrious side [deleted] Posted 17 years ago
Here's a www.kopecny.net/download/ilford/ilford_sp816t.pdf by Iford of the film, this maybe of some help. Sounds like an interesting film, with a particular sensitivity to red.
John Grey Posted 17 years ago
There is also this - but it isn't very specific about the films

www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/20061302117211999.pdf
danegermouse Posted 17 years ago
i know that kodak also has surveillance film and it develops pretty much as normal b/w (rather than extended red) but i have not seen the ilford version.

eileen, i have a spare bulk loader if you're interested. i'm moving to townsville in the new year tho, so you should let me know soon so i can hand it over.

d.
hagee Posted 17 years ago
AFAIK, the Ilford surveillance film is HP5+ with extended red sensitivity. So, I suggest for a first test to espose it at 200ASA and 400ASA (bracketing), and to develop it in Rodinal with the dilutions and times Ilford recommends for HP5+.
asterope* Posted 17 years ago
I had a feeling it was going to be similar to HP5+... i might go find some D-76/ID-11 to develop it cos HP5 looks terrible in rodinal!

Thanks Dane, I scored one on ebay so should be right for now... will you be teaching up in townsville?
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inetjoker Posted 17 years ago
HP5+ does look terrible in Rodinal but it sure shines in HC-110. I use the Unofficial Dilution H that is double the dilution B you just double the development time for Dilution H. on the same note FP4+ looks wonderful in Rodinal 1-50 and 1-100.
danegermouse Posted 17 years ago
photocontinental in mt gravatt sells d-76 for about $8 for a powder that makes 4 litres. i think they have id-11 too but its more expensive.

yeah i got a job teaching on palm island but we'll be living in townsville and they'll fly me in and out everyday! should be interesting to say the least.

dane.
TheWishy Posted 17 years ago
"SP816T is coated on 0.075mm/3mil grey polyester base which gives good halation protection and cannot be torn in the camera."

Danger, Will robinson. They're not kidding when they say a polyester base cannot be torn in the camera - thats not a good thing for convensional camera use - potentially thats the film advance gearing sheered off if you have a jam and aren't careful.
Michael Costolo Posted 17 years ago
I think the surveillance film is the kind that they show on TV that lets you keep zooming in on a shot over and over and still maintain good resolution.

And I think it only works with DDX.